As others have said, dump the Aureolin (PY40). Lawrence wrote, Should I bother replacing it with another colour that I dont already have? The square box is painted into a damp wash at the top to show the colour mixed in water, with more pigment added towards the bottom. Add Lemon Yellow. mid to slightly warm yellow. Naples Yellow, Da Vinci watercolour. Add Lemon Yellow. It is Indian Yellow that is said to have been produced from the urine of mango leaf-fed cows. PO49 Quin. PY37 + PY42 + PW6, Naples Yellow Reddish, MaimeriBlu Watercolour. Yellow Orange, Schmincke Horadam watercolours. Used in mass tone it can look a little neutralised but it washes out into a lovely bright transparent yellow. Many people are familiar with the name Gamboge, often called New Gamboge, but not so many will have come across the resin that made the original paint. Cadmium Yellow Light, American Journey watercolour. PY35. Bismuth Vandate Yellow - Daniel Smith Watercolours. I use it all the time. stream Lawrence, if it were me, Id keep the Winsor yellow until its used up and Id immediately ditch the Aureolin (if its PY40 as Char says). Cadmium Yellow Light Hue - Daniel Smith watercolour. Benzymidazole Yellow - Aquarius Watercolours. The only yellow used in this painting was Yellow Ochre applied to wet paper. Cadmium Yellow Pale, PY35. Quinophthalone Yellow -Aquarius watercolours. % Thank you to those of you, from Canada, Sweden, Australia and the USA, who have helped me with this section by sharing your favourite colours. Seems like they'd sell more paint, too. You can see many different and lovely yellows on my website here. Primary Yellow, Blockx watercolour. Good for solid opaque marks of saturated, warm yellow. I still have 3 tubes of Daniel Smith new gamboge with PY153, I've tried to buy more to stock up but the new tubes came with the new formula: PY97+PY110. However M Graham's is so much cheaper. Viewing 10 posts - 1 through 10 (of 10 total). (Note PO13 is not recommended if lightfast colours are desired), Cadmium Yellow, Winsor & Newton Watercolours. Available in a 15 ml. Powered by, National coffee day. Nickel Azo Yellow, Daniel Smith watercolour. The WC purists may expel me for this suggestion. This paint is made with Benzimidazolone Yellow, is very lightfast, and is from Series 3 so it's even more expensive than Series 2 Hansa Yellow Medium. My current regular cool/warm combo is Aureolin (probably to be replaced with Grahams Azo Yellow when those tubes are used up) and New Gamboge (dont know what that will be replaced with once those tubes are finished). I did this twice so two toothpick dips. Only Old Holland now sells this pigment, but it's quite expensive while the Lukas paint is cheap and at least as good (in this pgiment that is). The closest appears to be the Lukas paint but, being a Cadmium, is opaque and also toxic. If you do the same you would have to use only a very small amount of the MG at a time as it doesn't really dry (in Sydney Australia) due to the honey content. winsor&newton has selected this pigment for their new transparent yellow but its not as warm as new gamboge. As for label details I'm afraid I suspect an increasing number - not a huge number as yet - of paints have different formulas to that shown on the label. Add Lemon Yellow. PY35. PY35, Cadmium Yellow Pale, Blockx watercolour. Cool yellow, Cadmium Yellow Light, Sennelier watercolour. New 2017. It always amazes me how such an opaque color can become so strong and transparent in dilution. These colours lean towards green and have no apparent red in them so will make very bright greens when mixed with a cool blue and more neutral greens when mixed with a warm blue. Aureolin (Mixture), American Journey Watercolours. Add Cadmium Yellow Medium. 13 Colours Gamboge yellow, also known as rattan or wisteria yellow, gummi gutta and drop gum, is an organic pigment. A dark made from Permanent Alizarin Crimson and French Ultramarine had, in the first example, Indian yellow added. I live in Canada and do not have an issue with M. Graham paints. Possibly this is why W & N are now printing details on the new tube design. Known as Nickel Azo Yellow, this is a lovely transparent mid yellow, useful as a primary yellow. PY97 + PY153. PY3, PY153. I thought it would be good for mixing creamy corals and dusky pinks. This is what Winsor-Newton's Winsor Yellow Deep is. Marie's Watercolor Set of 18 colors in 12ml tubes - Colors include White, Lemon Yellow, Gamboge, Yellow Ochre, Orange Yellow, Vermilion, Crimson Red, Rose, Violet, Ultramarine Blue, Cerulean Blue, Prussian Blue, Green Deep, Green Light, Sap Green, Burnt Sienna, Burnt Umber, and Lamp Black. Hi Jane,This may be somewhat late to the party (so to speak)but I've just got a tube of PY 155-Lukas Permanent Yellow Light.Like PY 150 its a Benzimidazolone but does not have that browning in masstone. Fascinating! DS New Gamboge was made with the single pigment PY153 but is now a mixed hue using PY97 and PY110. PY150, Nickel Azo Yellow, M.Graham watercolour. Cadmium Yellow, Daler Rowney Watercolour. PY153. Updated May 2021 AVAILABLE IN 15ml; 5ml; Sticks, Half Pans 2 Warm lightly neutral yellow hue. PY175 is more reliable. Permanent Gamboge, Art Spectrum watercolour. One neutral transparent yellow is going to mix for the most part as well as the other unless one is significantly different in tinting strength. I have posted paint-outs of all of them in the Try it Dots thread if you want to have a look. Hi Jane!I'm just learning to paint in watercolour and am sorting my paints by pigment. She is using new gamboge and alizarin crimson for the flesh tone, but I only have lemon yellow and cadmium yellow deep. This topic has 9 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated. Aquarius Watercolours. PW4 + PY53 _ PBr24, Naples Yellow Reddish - Aquarius watercolour. Winsor & Newton Professional Watercolor Paint, New Gamboge, is a recently reformulated warm yellow pigment resembling genuine toxic Gamboge. Written by on February 27, 2023. So these are the swatches I painted. PY35+PW6 + PW4. PY97. I would love to hear more about the processes of both Gaz if it is not all trade secrets. Quinacridone Gold DS PO49, Low-staining, transparent yellowish-brown pigment that dilutes to a soft gold. Hi Jane, I was wondering how the M Graham Azo Yellow compares with Daniel Smith Azo Yellow? I don't know what you are painting and what colours you already have but I didn't find the Australian Grey terribly useful. I bought 2 of the 4 remaining 37 mil tubes from Jackson's a couple of Schmincke Indian Yellow (PY153) and a couple of Jackson'(alias Schmincke) Indian Yellow (PY153) so for the present I can forget about a substitute. A bright mixer without being too acidy, GOLDEN Aureolin Hue allows artists to add vibrant, earthy warmth without dulling. By all means use it if it's creamy corals and dusky pinks you are after :-). Lets clarify a bit more :). Add Cadmium Yellow Medium. The set is a split-primary palette, providing a warm and cool version of each primary color. American Journey watercolour. Abdul - most palettes would include at least two yellows. After the painting was dry a final glaze of diluted Cadmium Yellow was used to link the red awning and the blue striped blind. Daniel Smith call it Hansa Yellow Deep. So far PY110, which is highly praised by Handprint, is only on offer from Daniel Smith and Graham - Permanent Yellow Deep - Indian Yellow respectively. Indian yellow (Hue) - Aquarius Watercolours. PY151. Colour Description: Golden yellow in masstone, but appears cooler and more like a lemon yellow in washes and glazes Transparency/Opacity: Transparent to semi-transparent. Cadmium Lemon, PY35. 284600006 Aureolin (Cobalt Yellow) Series 3 Aureolin (Cobalt Yellow) PY 40 II Very Good 1 Non-Staining Non-Granulating 284600234 Aussie Red Gold Series 2 . A few years ago, genuine Quinacridone Gold made with PO49 was only available in Daniel Smith 15ml tubes. PO62, PY97. If you look at the aforementioned Handprint listing for PY151, it and PY154 are both recommended as replacements for PY40. Could this colour be the only yellow in a restricted palette?Hope to hear from you guys soon. W&N New Gamboge is less orange than I wanted it, but after a while I got used to it and adapted my way of working. 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You can also find me on Facebook at Jane Blundell Artist, and on Instagram as Janeblundellart, and on YouTube as Jane Blundell. I just use the cool bismuth yellow, the warm new gamboge, and the earthier quin gold. I did this painting using Quinacridone Gold for the darks and yellow under washes. The third example is muddy, opaque and nowhere near as dark due to the sedimentary opacity of the Cadmium Yellow. Is it just to make realistic muted greens? Gamboge is a water-soluble pigment made from the gum of the Garcinia hanburyi tree, which is found in Cambodia, Thailand, and Vietnam. Bruce has some good suggestions too, but be careful of Naples Yellowits pretty opaque, and can make mud in a nanosecond. Arylide Yellow DV, Hansa Yellow Medium DS, Mayan Yellow DS, Schev Yellow Light Old Holland, Tranparent Yellow W&N. Azo Yellow - Daniel Smith watercolour. PY35, PO20. SCHOOL BUS YELLOW - Is the street term for this. So Indian yellow is gamboge as the word gamboge is an English corruption of the Indian word for its more basic name .These will produce granulating and non granulating effects and mix well in the vast majority of palettes to produce an amazing array of colours and effects .Genuine gamboge being urine is sterile and non toxic .It is easy to differentiate from hues and tints because of its odour ! Good luck and then go and buy a tube!!! Aureolin Mixture, American Journey watercolour. Permanent Yellow Deep by Daniel Smith is a very orange yellow - much more so than New Gamboge. I have been using PY 110 found in Daniel Smith and M. Graham, the latter being now my favorite supplier. In the second example, Quinacridone gold and in the third example, Cadmium Yellow. Naples Yellow, QoR watercolour. Paints made with honey stay moist in the palette and MG's paint are highly pigmented. Cadmium Yellow Medium, Da Vinci Watercolour. I wonder how different they are? M. Grahams Indian Yellow (PY 110) is a nice substitute for Gamboge. Aureolin Mixture, Da Vinci watercolour. It's more lightfast than the Light version. I'm finding the discrepancies confusing (but maybe it doesn't matter?) Or at least close enough not to notice? Neither PY65 or PY110 are (as yet) widely available but PY65 is listed by W & N as Winsor Yellow Deep, also by DaVinci as Hansa Yellow Deep and Arylide Yellow Deep. I dont know about Cadmium Yellow deep, would think that Raw Sienna would be a better choice. Aquarius Cadmium Yellow Deep (shown) and Art Spectrum Cadmium Yellow are the only available versions since theDaniel Smith version has been discontinued. Daniel Smith are pretty good at matching their hue colours to the original version, though you may find the odd 'old stock' tube of the lovely PY153 around still. Handprint claims several orange-yellow and yellow-orange paints make adequate replacements but basically plumps for three, PY35, PY65 and PY110. I looked at the formulas from Daniel Smith (PY97, PY110), Da Vinci (PY3, PY42), M. Graham (PY151, PO62), Rembrandt (PY150, PO48) and Winsor and Newton (PY150, PR209) none of which I am thrilled with.So far I'm happiest with 6 parts PY97 Hansa Yellow Medium, 1 part PY43 Verona Gold Ochre and a tiny bit of Transparent Pyrrol Orange. Jane, As far as you know, when a color is called "new gamboge," does that imply that it's a chemically made substitute for natural gamboge, and therefore, more colorfast? 2 0 obj There are a number of different names for the various hues that have been made to replicate the colour of Gamboge with more permanent pigments. Those who really want PY153 can get it from them and make their own. Start with Cadmium Yellow Deep. Gamboge Nova - Holbein Watercolour. Enjoy them! PY3 + PO13 PY150. PY108. ,if I need go over another color to increase the sunny look(say a patch of green grass) I dont want a yellow that will muddy it up to much ,any suggestions are so help full.. Cool yellow, Lemon Yellow - Aquarius Watercolours. PY135 (discontinued), New Gamboge - Daniel Smith Watercolour PY97 + PY110. And, be at peace with yourself. PY74 + PY83 + PO73. PY37. PY35, Cadmium Yellow Deep is usually a warm or range-leaning yellow. When I do some colour swatches, I realy dont see that much a difference between Aureolin and Winsor Yellow, so I guess the questions become: Which are better/more versatile mixers? (Burnt) Orange to PY150. Quinaphthalone Yellow - Daniel Smith watercolour. One commonly recommended colour to avoid is Aureolin PY40. M. Graham gamboge was the first source of the pure pigment in watercolors, which was discontinued in 2001 for a "gamboge" made with a PY151+PO62 mixture; in 2007 Daniel Smith came into the market with their permanent yellow deep, and thereafter M. Graham brought the pigment back into their line. new gamboge (py153) is made of nickel, which makes it rather special. I'd be curious how it compares.Thanks very much for initiating this discussion. I bought a few vintage watercolor palettes and have New Gamboge in a Winsor and Newton #3 Bijou Box with the four well lid that I'm pretty sure is the old formula. Measured against a gray scale value . I suggest however you Google 'Handprint Palettes' where you will find a complete discussion about the composition of palettes and why. Thanks for comments Jane. I don't have it; have you tried it? Probably not But, I wouldnt be without my tube of Gamboge mixed with Napthol Red, it produces the most glowing orange you ever saw!!!! PY151, M. Grahams Azo yellow is really a nice almost neutral yellow that mixes well with almost everything. These are mostly a mixture of three pigments including white, though PBr24 shown above is a lovely option. PY35. PY93. New colour 2017 It is difficult to show the true orange-yellow hue. Brand: DANIEL SMITH. PY154+PY153. I thought PY3 was not very lightfast. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. #html-body [data-pb-style=RV0IHKX]{justify-content:flex-start;display:flex;flex-direction:column;background-position:left top;background-size:cover;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-attachment:scroll}Rublev Colours Vermilion Watercolor is an opaque, deep red from vermilion (mercuric sulfide) made by the dry process in China. Naples Yellow, American Journey watercolour. I have been painting professionally for over 40 years and love to share my discoveries, so I have created this 'Colourpedia - a swatching Wikipedia' to quote one of my YouTube followers. PO20. PY35, Cadmium Yellow Lemon, Maimeri Blu watercolours. PY65. Over time the color can change, lighten, darken or even almost disappear. 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