Location: Chicago. Jul 8, 2020. It revs fine but with the turbo disabled a drive around the block is at a pedestrian pace. Good day. I know impulse sending wheels and camshaft they need to be lined up using a special tool. 176000km is only 110000 miles, that is a shame that such a nice compact power house(N20/N26 that is) can go bust in such young age, BMW really should step up and recall all the affected N20/N26 with defective parts. Now I'm getting the drivetrain malfunction every time I start my car. Note that the desired angle was constant. PROCEDURE Thank you again. Owned Program. It appears to be a relatively simple, .5 hr swap. Coasting to a stop the engine suddenly died and would not restart. The oil and filter have always been genuine BMW. N20 cylinder block is made of aluminum with two balance shafts and steel-plated cylinders. 130108 VANOS, intake, control fault, position not reached The last oil change was two years ago but only 2200 miles were driven. Code 131501 Variable camshaft timing control VANOS intake cold start- not controllable This will likely be the first and last BMW I will ever own. Hi Chip.. Did you ever come across a step by step procedure in doing this? cover and expose some wires and by moving around stuff they was rubbing together and i had the battery connect at that time too.need some help please thank in advance, Ok,,,,you said you smell gas and black smoke out of the exhaust, and you have wiring harness damage to Dinan piggy back,,,I would think this is your problem the harness is damaged and can be causing your problem with the fuel injectors dumping to much fuel into the engine,,,you can remove the spark plugs and see if they are fuel soaked to verify this problem,,,,I dont know if you can remove the Dinan piggy back and put it back to stock.,,,I hope this helps, Update on my car was other human error wrong timing was locking the camshaft with lobs facing down, i correct it and veh stated up right away..THANKS for taking time to assess me. 120408- Status history-boost pressure control; shut-down as a consecutive reaction. Whether the engine is cold or warm, the VANOS faults appear within 15 seconds of startup. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: Maybe I should replace them? My 320i with N20 engine have problem with light accelerator or cruise on hightway, about 1.100-1450 rpm.Engine noise u u u like weve a drone around and with little vibration on steering. 2D60 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, camshaft jammed I assume that the f31 328i RW could also be affected ? Checked the Camshaft Journal Caps. 2D5B VANOS, intake, control fault, position not reached I would like the tackle the Vanos issue first and go from there. Work time (WT) labor operation 61 00 006 requires an individual punch time. The BMW N20 is a 4-cylinder, turbocharged engine produced from 2011-2017, and was BMW's replacement for the naturally aspirated 3.0L 6-cylinder N52/N53 engines. This documentation is not necessary when part of an approved Technical Service repair procedure; Exhaust Camshaft: Installation faulty. Refer to KSD2 for the corresponding flat rate unit (FRU) allowance. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. 130f11 Code 131401 Variable camshaft timing control VANOS exhaust cold start not controllable, Your problem could be a programming issue or it could could both vanos units as per sib bulletin 12 14 12, Hello, I replaced the oil filter, inspected the oil filter basket and the green O ring at the bottom. Andrea, I just found your blog looking for answers for my used/ new to me 2013 328i with N20 engine. This situation can occur as a customer complaint, or after performing 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable Are there many vehicles that run on ethanol in the United States? Then I changed the exhaust cam gear and the solenoid. I am troubleshooting an issue with it already for weeks now and unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause yet. Rather it is no cost extended warranty in Canada. Ok Ill do that. Was it coincidental and maybe the bits of trash in the both VANOS spool valves cleared at the exact same time? Looks all good. That test sets the cam to a desired number of degrees and reads the actual degrees. Should I proactively replace the timing chain tensioner, part number 11318685091 (replaces part number 11317567680)? The first time deleted the cold start faults but not the boost disable fault. Is the fact that my vehicle is not on your list reassuring? It is still worth inquiring about at your local dealership. Your really helpful : So how do I know when its time for a update. Opened oil pan and checked pick up screen. Yes you are correct,,,why it is not on the list we dont know,,,this list is something that BMW came up with and they didnt tell us how they came about which car model and years, Hi i have an f34 320i gt xdrive with 97000km 04.07.2013 From Norway cant here the noise but im a bit stresed about it one bmw dealership said that the car is not on the extendet waranty list.Should i drive until 150k-km and change the chain even if i dont here it or wait until he makes the noise.If is x-drive does it get used faster then Rw.And why so many 328I afected and not so many 320i? charger. Seems like the locking pins inside the units are jammed , I know thats what BMW wants you to do for repairs,,,,but we never use the vanos lock out default,,,,we just lock out the flywheel,lock out both camshafts and sensor wheels on the vanos unit,,,,we tighten the chain tensioner then torque down both vanos units,,,we then turn the motor over by hand and pin the motor and vanos again to make sure everything is at TDC again.,,,I hope this helps. If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? The crank pin to hold at TDC goes through the tiny hole pointing to the rear of the car by the catalytic converter, the only thing this would be able to hold onto would be the flex plate/flywheel. Hello BMW technician, I know there is a lawsuit going on with N20 timing chain in NJ District Court E84 and E89: N20 and N26 Engine: Various VANOS System Faults Stored in DME MODEL E84 E89 F10 F25 F30 F31 F34 . she said light came on oil pressure error stop immidiatly Next day car returned to BMW with propulsion light . Glossary of Emission Coverage attachment for more information. Is there possible timing not to be correct on the intake vanos unit?! Emissions Warranty coverage that applies. The first start up gave many more codes but I have cleared the fault codes several times and these two appear along with the consequence fault code of 120408 Charge pressure control off. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: I have checked timing multiple times, I found this article online and this is what Im thinking right now!! Good day. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Suddenly the half yellow engine light came on and was telling me that reduced engine power bla bla. programming and it fails to program correctly or requires initialization, this additional work must Thank you, Rev match I say problem. My engine shut of while idle in park. within the BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty and this coverage extends beyond the The extended warranty runs out in December. 1c0102 The car is as we speak back to the dealer for further diagnose and they have seen a slight difference in the crankshaft position or something like that.. one of the shafts was not in the correct angle. Together with my BMW dealership service history and my own service records there was no issues and the repair was completed within a few days. THNX. If one of the applicable faults listed above is stored in the DME then continue with the During highway driving the car drives fine. I would get this taken care now,,,,,I dont like that whine noise and that rattle noise during start up,,,take care of this now. Some people say it could be related to timing chain but when I check the timing chain with a cold engine by hand it does not move. Here the vehicle was driven only at SP98. or can I slowly unscrew the center valve and insert a new one? The only fault was still the boost disable fault. Do you replace the units in such case, or do you know a trick to lose them? 131501-VANOS inlet, cold start not consolable. Hi Im planning to buy a second hand 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25) and its about 65000 miles now. Ive change engine mount, spark plug, coil but problem is the same. Yes that crack in the timing chain guide should be enough to replace the timing chain and guide rails,,,,the way we decide if the car is covered is by whine noise,rattle noise,broken pieces of timing chain guide,,,how before we get the extended warranty that is hard to say,,,it all depends on the legal side of the lawsuit Im sorry to say. check out the. The improved DME software was introduced Could you please guide me? Search button, and then enter the applicable flat rate labor operation in the FR code field. The timing chain & guides are bathed in engine oil, not fuel. He discovered it was the engine to chassis ground strap. Yes it does not say no signal. The car has 176,000 kilometers or roughly 110,000 miles. Hi bmwtechnician, Do you know if the new Vanos assemblies comes with the upgraded bolts or do I still need to change out the 4 Vanos Gear bolts on a new assembly? The engine was low water damaged. Im more concerned with the multiple vanos codes which happened after the fact. CAUSE Only in eco or comfort mode when I drive carefully or just keeping a normal speed at low rpm. Could this be the timing chain? I have a 2015 x1 with an April 2015 manufacture date. Looking forward to the return of your blog. I tried to reset vanos with no success. thanks, You might want to look at the timing chain on a N20,,,that can cause a lot of different problem, Your email address will not be published. Loaner vehicle was included. 3: 130304 VANOS (Variable camshaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. Im wondering if I can just replace those bolts with new steel ones , my car is out of warranty and it has not develop any issues yet , but as precautionary measure I was wondering if this is possible? Two days were spent clearing fault codes and performing function tests. What is your opinion about the above? Recently purchased 2104 BMW X1 28i x drive. Now also Im sitting 3 months over then 7/70 mark! I havent been sleeping well. Do you think it has to do something with the timing belt. The improved DME software was introduced Thank you in advance. BMW Fault Code Lookup Enter a BMW fault code (P or hex), complete the Captcha, and click "Search" P-Codes will start with a P and are usually generated by generic scanners. How do I approach the dealer saying I hear a noise and whatnot for them to fix it while it is still under warranty? I learned that if you touch the neg and positive battery cable together while the battery is disconnected it clears the light. Since the picture was taken by me not by the dealer. Picture of my timing chain guide rail cracking: https://imgur.com/4P3ATsK. and I would just pay attention to any abnormal whine noise,,,,there is no maintenance on the timing chain. Hi, thank you for the reply. So just saw this in the nick of time. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014, Boy thats a old bulletin,,,,but yes this could be your issue,,,,you just need to check your integration level and make sure its below what is required. Thanks! Not a good sign, had the same thing happen on 2013 X3. Also can sparkplugs have any influence to this situation? Hey, I have a 2014 BMW 428i (F32 with an N20 engine) it is just under 70k around 61,000 I believe and it looks like it was manufactured in 9/2013. But when I try to test VANOS data via ISTA it gives no data, only 0. I bought an x3 28ix build on 07/2015, model 2016 with 124000km. The hardcore BMW fan base could not help but fall in love with the spritely performance offered by this upgraded engine. Page 3 of 4 Thats important to know for later. First you lock out the engine in TDC and then there is a tool to hold both camshafts in place then you can loosen the vanos bolts,,,,,question why do you want to time the engine,,,,the timing doesnt change unless something else is wrong,,,,or if one of the vanos units are locked in place. Id rather not pay more money. My daughters car had the timing chain issue N20. Hi, I recently bought a 2012 X1 xDrive28i. It was somewhat cold today around 20 degrees. With the VANOS solenoids removed, the spring loaded VANOS spool valve moved in and out easily. 120408 Intermittent Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence In US the N20/N26 timing chain extended limited warranty is 7 years/70000 miles, so what is extended coverage available in your country? F31 2008 BMW 128I [0.00] Check engine light DTC 131501. I just can't find a procedure on removing the valve cover and locking down the cams. Thank you so much for your advice. It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. The update can only be done at the dealer,,,you will only need a update if there is some kind of BMW recall on software or if at anytime your car might need some other repair which might call for a update for the repairs.,,,your 2009 is a lot older system,,,that car is like Windows XP compared to Windows 10,,,,lol,,,there's a big difference both The year of 2012 was a year of impending upgrades in . I dont think they will take your picture as evidence,,,,but you could give it a try it wouldnt hurt, Hello- or ground from chassis to engine? Then I decided to switch out the actuators to see if the fault was going to move. Connect scan tool to the 16-pin data link connector (DLC) located underneath the steering column. After several engine stop/start cycles there were still no faults. Risking my good fortune I had to run the VANOS function test again. What's even more exciting about the N20 engine is that this four-cylinder engine is capable of generating a stunning power of 240 HP and a sizzling torque of 260 lb-ft. It is really a shame that BMW does not communicate on the subject, especially since here in Europe the problem is not repeated while in the United States it seems widespread. The head mechanics at BMW Santa Monica have no idea either. Not sure if he meant evap leak. 112,000 km / 7 years. Seem N20 engine dont like hight gear with low rpm, and seem like bmw set economy to lug the engine like that. You referenced this TSB in your comment to Ronnie back in 2017. 'nhUO}gFXA}_+7"F.\ztVw@%/`>vny#(`YN:2ed_zI.. But that is all. The timing was checked several times after installing the new chain. Im getting error codes 120408 Charging Pressure Control: Switched off. Ive enjoyed your blog and I hope you will start posting again. This time the desired angle was not a constant as in the previous tests. 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