It was largely untouched by the Troubles and paramilitaries. Nostrovia!! As for the Tullamore Dew, it actually is the perfect mingling of North & South, since the pot still & grain comes from Midleton in Cork and the single malt is distilled at Bushmills (then aged down at LDI). Yup, only the americans give a shit about this stuff anymore. Bushmills is distilled in County Antrim, Northern Ireland. Car bombs, kidnappings, murders, protests, etc. Three persons in one God: Father, Son and Holy . Such days are long over, and Dew is rapidly making up the difference in sales, and has already overtaken Jamison in may countries in Europe. It's been going on for thousands of years across the globe. Is Jameson Protestant whiskey? Some of the comments here are totally rediculous. Wonderful thread. Yep, this goes back to when Bushmills was still part of IDL (Irish Distillers Limited) and owned by Pernod. Turned out not to be such a controversy. [2], In 1791 James Power, an innkeeper from Dublin, established a small distillery at his public house at 109 Thomas St., Dublin. Father Urban has succeeded as a business operator on behalf of his monastic . About 5 or 6 years ago they flooeded Irish bars with it just before St. Paddys Day,almost forcing bars to sell off a lot of free stock they received. Today in Trader Joes, the checker looked at my bottle of Bushmills and then at me and asked, Catholic or Protestant? I had never heard that one before. As regards the Catholic v Protestant whiskey debate. However, the only brand of Irish I ever saw in the Balkans was Tullamore Dew. Distilling of locally grown agricultural to produce alcohol is something that is not peculiar to Ireland. Ill have to try a Manhattan next. This was a long term plan but theyve brought it forward by about 8-10 years. I am Catholic and Slovak and do not care what the British have done to the Irish. It is the oldest licensed distillery by 200 years and was once owned by a Belfast barman who get this was a teetotaller and secretly wrote religous tracts damning the Demon Drink! To comment on a few posts above: I am of Irish descent and remember hearing the Protestant Whiskey comments as a kid growing up in New England(I am 50 now). Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. Ive always preferred the non-woodsy irish Whiskeys so Powers, Knappogue, Red Breast, and recently the Spots have been my drink of choice and never was a fan of bushmills. Powers is for shooting, some of the swill mentioned here is OK for mixing and when I want a little variety, I go for a double Connemara 12 never get tired of the peated smoothness and wonderful finish. Bushmills on one end, Jamesons on the other. I usually drink my whiskey neat but would anyone be able to recommend an Irish whiskey cocktail/mixed drink that doesnt included coffee or a green liquid? hint of linseed. I do live in a Hicktown. The Protestant/Catholic thing was explained to me as a labor dispute where a bunch of Catholic Derrymen were laid off from the Bushmills distillery or some shite. Plus, many of the whiskies can be sipped neat or on the rocks. Tim, I made a great Manhattan variation last night with 2oz Powers Gold Label, 1oz Carpano Punt E Mes and a dash or two of Angostura (regular, not orange), stirred up with a cherry garnish and enjoyed it very much indeed. one night. Regarding the Catholic/Protestant/Jewish/Corn Beef relationship, Man is walking down the street in Belfast. To inject religion into the discussion demeans the very simple fact that whiskey has no religion despite the understandable biases of the past. Though I like all of the ones mentioned above more. Talk about confused. All of it. You say What can one expect from people [Italians] who prefer grappa to the true Water of Life?, To continue the original theme of this thread religion IMO, grappa proves the existence of God. Tullamore Dew has lemon notes with wood undertones, whereas Jameson has a light . I no longer consider myself Catholic, btw. Sorry, but I have always loved them both. Ian Paisley MP, Euro MP and MLA; universally known Doctor No. I said, so youre Protestant? Bushmills does not, to my certain knowledge, employ Catholics as certain industries/companies are, let us say, reserved for one tribe or another in the Black North. But generally, if you like it sweet, you like Jamesons products (including Redbreast, 1780, and Powers) If you like it dry, youll prefer the Busmills lineup. Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. so stop bringing religion into alcoholdrink what you like and leave the bigotry at the doorif people spent a few hours getting to know each other over a drink we wouldnt have half the discrimination we have today. A fair amount of nonsense in some of these replies. Im Irish American and I volunteered for both Sinn Fin and Irish Northern aide. Memories. I must say I enjoyed reading this thread, and I had no intention of posting until I reached #58. An Italian friend, when introduced to the term Uiske Beatha thought the word was bad water and now refers to it as Aqua Sporca or dirty water. For one, Jameson and Bushmills trade casks and some Jamesons bottles are bottled in the Bushmills distillery as well as knowing many a catholic who have worked there over the years. Holy moly, TRIPLE SEC, 2 shots of BUSHMILLS, Catholic fiction teaches us then how to better read the Bible, which demands the both/and reading of the letter and spirit. I have even concocted a drink for St. Patricks day,. No one here has a soft spot in their heart for Paddys? 2. Only if you are an idiot! It is either good or it is not. So, so stupid. Every time you raise a glass of Bushmills you are in essence raising a glass to an Irishman losing his land (and in some cases his life) to British rule!! Slainte. When Tug McGraw was interviewed after winning the world series in 1980, they asked him what he was going to spend his series winnings on. Some, like Jameson, are owned by Catholic companies. The fun is is teasing those who do not know/care to understand. During this period, when the Dublin whiskey distilleries were amongst the largest in the world, the family-run firms of John Power, along with John Jameson, William Jameson, and George Roe, (collectively known as the "Big Four") came to dominate the Irish distilling landscape, introducing several innovations. Eamonn, I thought all that was in the past and your country moved on? Mmmm..Middleton distillery. @Darby OGill. But thats merely based on geography: Bushmills is from Northern Ireland (a predominantly Protestant region) and Jameson is from Cork Catholic country. Spose its kinda like Rangers (hoik-phew) and Celtic FC really. Prefer the Irish whiskeys but never met a single malt I didnt savor. All Irish whiskey is great. The plantation of Ulster started in 1609, and BTW that very same King (James I) planted the Jamestown settlement in Virginia two year previous in 1607. Terrific reading. I can solve this argument. Do not place them next to each other. In 1989, Irish Distillers itself became a subsidiary of Pernod-Ricard following a friendly takeover. I was born in West Belfast and I can tell you, that most Catholics prefer Jamesons. Theyve also started work on a massive bottling plant on site to bring all areas of Dew production back to the town. Not that it really matters. Went on the Bushmills tour in November 2015. Arthur Guinness was definitely Protestant And a Unionist. He was adamantly against Home Rule as well. Though in the end, I do really prefer Bushmills. These two fine whiskeys should be enjoyed in a glass and not on some pseudo-religious podium. Bad Catholic that I am, I always drank Bushmills over Jameson. Clicking on a product takes you to Amazon, which helps me keep this site running, so thank you in advance! I dont generally buy it, but Ill drink it without complaint. One good friend turned to me and chuckled. History matters which is why the Catholic/Protestant thing is relevant. Anyone try Kilbeggan Irish Whiskey? In later years I looked more into my family history and came to realize that my Fathers family were local Baptists and my Mothers were Czech Catholics. The Plantation of Ulster is when the King of England gave lands away in Northern Ireland to the English that originally belonged to the Irish. It has earned a permanent place in my cabinet right next to my Glenrothes 1995 which I prefer over all the other SM brands including MacAllan 18 & 25. Have heard that Jim Beam (the new owners of the Cooley distillery) may discontinue production on contracted whiskies such as this in order to focus squarely on putting Kilbeggan up against Jameson, Bushmills & Tullamore Dew. Powers' Morte d'Urban, for example, the novel may strike you as the slightly humorous failures of an all-too worldly priest. Get over it and drink what you feel. After all, thats what the Jacobites were all about. The company has been running since 1780 and has developed and perfected the art of producing the premium quality, top shelf, and smoothest Irish whiskey in the world today. I grew up in a so-called Protestant area in west County Down where nobody really cares what you are. Not what I would call a cheap whisley, albeit there are many out there that can cost a fair penny more. Im not sure if this is truth or myth but I cannot drink Bushmills due to there even being a chance of truth in that because of the awful stories I heard about those F&[emailprotected]$&$ convicts (the black and tans) the Brits let loose on the people of Ireland. The Catholic Whiskey in Dublin was John Powers. Like seriously you hate us so much you wont drink our whiskey??? Beaumont Funny, I thought of addressing that as I was wrapping up the post, but then thought, Nah, the chuckleheads who read this website arent smart enough to draw that conclusion. Guess I was wrong. It has been my favorite since discovering it at the Buena Vista Cafe in San Francisco. My post was simple stating that the problem still exists. Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. This is excellent. I was playing golf in Ireland, and I asked my caddy what was his favorite whiskey. According to everyone Ive spoken with on the subject, you only really find this debate in the States, where Irish-American support of the Republic can sometimes be blind and often fueled by the very product were speaking of. Ive used Irish Whiskey in Old Fashions and Sours before with tasty results. Fathers side Ulster.ancestors to America ca 1719. This works in the same way that Protestants love their Guinness just as much as Roman Catholics in fact, I know a lot of Catholics who never drink the stuff. The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. Being RC from Ulster, Ive had Jameson (and other Cork products) in plenty of Prod pubs (whether in Belfast or elsewhere) and plenty of Bushmills in RC pubs (whether in Dublin or in staunch republican areas of Cork, Kerry, and elsewhere), and never been hassled over it. It makes things interesting. Have a good one. @Darby )Gill: What a load of nonsense! Parents did their best to kill thatand they did. Now I have a different taste preference and enjoy Bushmills in the warmer months and back to Jameson when it gets a chill in the air. It has shaped Ireland's agriculture, literature, song and now, more than ever - our economy.. The numbers level out when it comes to religions those. It is Bushmills that supplies single malt (The Old Bushmills Distillery is the only one of the three in Ireland that distills only triple distilled single malt whiskey, while the Midleton Distillery produces grain & pure potstill spirit and Cooley produces double distilled single malt, grain & potstill), as well as doing the bottling for Jameson, Powers & Paddys (All from Midleton, along with Red Breast, Greenspot & Tullamore Dew). A bunch of bigoted b######s arguing over the religion of whiskey. It was one of the longest and most destructive conflicts in European history, resulting in millions of casualties. And as our clan motto states commit thy work to god. Simple business transaction where both sides benefit. Then I spent another 20 minutes clicking around at random on your site, and then I ended up at this article, neatly explaining the first part of the joke. Now, its important to note that the Scottish Reformation occurred in 1560, so odds are in favor of the founder of the Jameson distillery, being Scottish, was a damn Protestant. There is only one Catholic church in my town the rest are Baptist or other protestant. Whiskey takes no sides and is drank by all Catholic, Protestant, Hebrew, Atheist, etc. Next Post Xante Pear Liqueur (Not A Sex Toy). The spelling of whisk(e)y is actually a bit up in the air as far as that pesky e goes. And while the distillery had a larger proportion of Protestants than Catholics, this was down to the demographics of the area in which the town of Bushmills is situated which is largely a protestant area and the employment status reflects that. My hat is off to you, for your spookily informative collection of posts. Is Jameson, Bushmills Really Catholic Versus Protestant Whiskey? , Do note that the greatest tv show of all time, The Wire, always showed the Baltimore cops ordering Jameson in the bars, and the hero, McNulty, becomes indignant when only Bushmills is available at a partys open bar ( I guess most of the cops were Irish Catholic ), so traditions prevailed. I dont know about Ireland, but in some parts of the U.S there still major problems. [3] At the time the distillery had three pot stills, though only one, a 500-gallon still is thought to have been in use. Interesting and often amusing reading of so many perspectives. Now this character I met at the bar is trying to tell me its the other way around. My South Side Irish Chicago Dad always told me that Jameson was the Catholic whisky and that Bushmills was the whiskey made by the damn Protestants. Privacy Policy | It was the anti-Catholic hiring practices that Bushmills employed in Northern Ireland that fueled the snub. Believe in the Trinity of God. It is true to say it is an almost exclusively Protestant village, but otherwise it is a quiet rural area on a picturesque coastline, visited annually by thousands of tourists from both side of the divide. For a blend, I am really impressed with the Michael Collins. I love Redbreast and always have a bottle about, but based on some comments here Ill definitely be picking up a bottle of Powers Gold Label. We were up near Bushmills this past summer during our Ireland vacation (on our way from Belfast to The Causeway) and our Tipperary-based guide recommended not stopping there due to the companys historic treatment of Catholics. Stick to the booze recommendations, the mixed drink recipes, and the things you have first-hand experience with. The three also exchange used casks, when need be, if they have extra. I rag on about political whisky to those who are green only on the 17th and 18th of March.Hell, I even Not buying a certain brand of product because of centuries of English overlordship of Ireland is just so stupid on so many levels. And if you just like something different then Cooleys your distillery (though that Michael Collins stuff is shite). Right. There was an Irish-American lobby group headed by a politician that was running for mayor that started a whole anti-Bushmills campaign in San Francisco in the early 90s claiming that the company never hired Catholics, a convenient attract Irish-American votes. Wow, not one mention of Tullamore Dew. You claim that it is an Irish-American phenomenon, however up in the six counties Catholics drink Jameson and Prod-Brits drink Bushmills there is even a bit of violence attached to it. It wasnt an issue about who owns what. We were servedcorned beef and cabbage with California wine and a shot of Paddy cut with Baileys after dinner. I was wondering when someone would ask this question. Or champagne to protest Frankish aggression against the Gallo Romans. Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean) | I generally have several bottles of Irish on hand. Porn S, Eugene, Oregon friends! But I must say my absolute preference is Jameson 18 yr old. Although, when faced with only Jameson and Bushmills, I will usually go for the Bushmills. I answered, Episcopalian because we think of ourselves as both and neither. Ive been to the area that Bush Mills in manufactured and its total UFV territory. Its an American argument that doesnt carry weight here, whiskey is whiskey. I think its alot worse than some backward hick town in yankeeville. Thank you for the real-world experience! That was over 40 years ago. Well, being of Scots-descent, Ill take one of each. Lived in Ireland my whole life and as an avid whiskey drinker, both scotch and Irish, Ive never encountered that conversation. 1 pint of stout and a halfun of Jameson.. Those of us that still drink enjoy guinness as our beer This is coming from a protestant raised irish man from the local area. Click here to learn how to make this and other drinks for a slushie machine! Very easy arrangement. Also, your giving Prince Harry more money to go on vacation, maybe Vegas again perhaps? One more thing Since Pernod Ricard shut down the grain stills at the old Bushmills distillery, all of the grain whiskey in Bushmills is from Middleton! Previous Post Elements Eight Rum ** TONIGHT!! I see. Enough said I thought, and bought the next round. While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. Theres not catholic or protestant whiskey. What a great treat. [4] At the time of his visit, the distillery was home to five pot stills, two of which with capacities of 25,000 gallons, were amongst the largest ever built. there was thought to be up towards 25 distilleries in this town at one time. Just setting the record straight. Bushmills, on the other hand, was officially licensed in 1608 by King James I (of Bible fame) and despite of its location deep in the heart of Protestant country (and this next bit is straight from my local Bushmills rep, so take it or leave it) has a Catholic as a master distiller. I grew up in NYC with this popular myth engrained on my conciousness. I was born in buncrana moved to Derry then to Belfast and am now living in the uk Im Catholic and I must say I prefer Bushmills to Jamesons although Ive been a life Long fan of Jamesons it doesnt matter whether your Hun or teag drink what you like dont bring sectarianism into it itll spoil the taste. Funny, I also sought some info from a Bushmills rep when this controversy came up around St. Pattys day! In side-by-side STEEL CAGES!! Starting with Bushmills which I am using as a warm up to my usual Wild Turkey 101. And, fact fans, the space-age Middleton distillery in the far south makes the neutral alcohol for the blends produced at Bushmills up North. It is a fact that Bushmills is distilled in Northern Ireland, and Jameson hails from County Cork in the Republic. You will love this stuff. -as he grabbed the Red Breast off the shelf. It is the same oppression that the Hungarians did to the Slovaks over the ages!!!!! [9] They were the first Dublin distillery to do so, and one of the first in the world. Im trying one at a time to see what I prefer. But my personal preference is Redbreast, a twelve-year pot still Irish whiskey produced at the Old Midleton Distillery and a real delight to sip while enjoying a late-night Irish breakfast of sausage, egg, pudding and soda bread. 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