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Just embarrassing how Washington has screwed this up. Countries a fraction of our size and wealth are testing hundreds of thousands of people. Meanwhile in this country it seems like you have to be a celebrity or a politician to get tested. No one is taking responsibility to own the moment, at least at the federal level.
Serious question from a physician standpoint:
Assuming you are healthy and under 70 - if you tested positive, what would you expect to have done for you?

they would tell you to go home, take some pain medicine, monitor your breathing and self quarantine for two weeks with your family

right now you have been told by every level of government to go home and self quarantine for two weeks anyway- even if you feel great

so if you start to feel bad, assume you have it and act accordingly

other than the test with a positive results - you should be doing the same damn thing with the flu basically

As a doctor I have no idea why people feel they need a positive test - just do the right thing today and stay away from others outside of immediately family as much as possible regardless of how you feel or if you get tested today or ever
 

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Wearing an official campaign hat to the CDC is the best way to ensure this doesn’t get politicized.

Ridiculous. Equally ridiculous is Chuck Schumer making sure everyone is aware that he and a couple of his Democrat cronies called for this to be declared a National Emergency. That guy is like a pig in [ #2020 ] right now, he's got the stage he loves. Never waste a good crisis. The grandstanding is gross. Gonna be a fun next 7 1/2 months.
 

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Give Trump credit? For what? The only point to a travel ban on China would be to buy a tiny bit of time to ramp up testing, start organizing ICUs, and deploying respirators. Know what Washington did? Made plans to cut the CDC budget. Know what Trump did?complained on Twitter about Vanity Fair magazine. And ordered a pointless ban on European travel AFTER covid was already established in population centers. Know what the senate did? Went on vacation so that the emergency funding bill won’t become law until next week. I’d call it a comedy of errors, but thousands of people will die because of it.

The biggest lie being spread is that the Trump Administration made funding cuts to the CDC. What was "cut" was the emergency increase in spending due to Ebola that the administration let expire.

Otherwise known as "Washington Accounting", this is how slimy politicians justify their spending increases every year. Because even a reduction in the proposed increase in spending is blasted as a "SPENDING CUT WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE" by politicians.
 

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Hey Man, Stop talking out of your behind.

The H1N1 Virus killed .02% of the 60.8 million Americans that got it.

If Covid- 19 spreads to 60.8 million Americans, at current worldwide rates (3.7%),

2.2 million people would die.

That's one in 159 Americans.

The more rosey number of a .75% death rate, that would be 456,000 deaths.

And that is if the medical system doesn't get totally screwed because we only have 200,000 respirators.

Just Stop.

Why are people continuing to push the obvious [ deposit from a bull that looks like Art Briles ] 3.4% death rate?
 

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I hope we don't end up closing all the national parks this spring and summer. With nothing else to do, maybe more people would get out and enjoy the beauty that our country has.
If Yellowstone closes, I will question everyone’s cognitive abilities to make decisions

if things are still that bad this summer, we won’t have international flights and that will cut out half the tourists

The other half can practice social distancing themselves with 10 Yd increments and still not cover half the park
 
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Why are people continuing to push the obvious [ deposit from a bull that looks like Art Briles ] 3.4% death rate?
Lol. Says the guy who thinks the Rothschild run everything. I’ll say it again. That is some bs and bigotry if there ever was one.
 

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I would like to see much more news about test results, updated mortality rates, and details about the people who succumbed to this disease and much less talk about how this impacts the election, whose fault the "mistakes" were and vice versa. I just jogged through CNN, FoxNews and MSNBC. Really, really hard to tell if this is a health crisis or a political football by the way this is being covered. If this is a crisis on the level that everyone is claiming it is, who the hell cares who wins an election in November right now? They should know that.
 

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Lol. Says the guy who thinks the Rothschild run everything. I’ll say it again. That is some bs and bigotry if there ever was one.

They control the fiat currency in pretty much every country except Afghanistan, Iran, North Korea, Syria, and Cuba. Hmmm I wonder what all those countries have in common? Oh, they are countries that our military industrial complex always wants to invade and overthrow.
 

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Serious question from a physician standpoint:
Assuming you are healthy and under 70 - if you tested positive, what would you expect to have done for you?

they would tell you to go home, take some pain medicine, monitor your breathing and self quarantine for two weeks with your family

right now you have been told by every level of government to go home and self quarantine for two weeks anyway- even if you feel great

so if you start to feel bad, assume you have it and act accordingly

other than the test with a positive results - you should be doing the same damn thing with the flu basically

As a doctor I have no idea why people feel they need a positive test - just do the right thing today and stay away from others outside of immediately family as much as possible regardless of how you feel or if you get tested today or ever

Basically, there are people who have come in contact with people who have the virus. In South Korea, those people were tested, it came up positive, and they were quarantined. They did not further spread the disease even though they felt fine, because they knew they were carrying the virus. We don't have that in this country, our "feel fine" people go about their daily lives and have no clue they are infected, oftentimes days or even weeks later, infecting others along the way until they present symptoms.

On that chart above, we are taking Italy's approach of only testing people who are showing symptoms. It is not going well for Italy, and it has made containment in this country impossible to the point where our officials have basically admitted the ship has sailed on it.
 
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Basically, there are people who have come in contact with people who have the virus. In South Korea, those people were tested, it came up positive, and they were quarantined. They did not further spread the disease even though they felt fine, because they knew they were carrying the virus. We don't have that in this country, our "feel fine" people go about their daily lives and have no clue they are infected, oftentimes days or even weeks later, infecting others along the way until they present symptoms.

On that chart above, we are taking Italy's approach of only testing people who are showing symptoms. It is not going well for Italy, and it has made containment in this country impossible to the point where our officials have basically admitted the ship has sailed on it.
Well I’m off to buy more TP.
 

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This sort of reporting is disingenuous at best. Our government and their experts are always looking to prepare for any number of issues that "might" happen in the future, from the afore mentioned EMP and cyber attacks to pandemics and natural disasters. .

Jesus mother scheissing Christ. Dude ELIMINATES *PRECISELY* the kind of government group that is designed to deal with crises such as the one in question. . . Short-sighted scheisss say, "Oh good, eliminate govt waste," and then when that VERY decision comes back to haunt ALL of us, when according to the doctors leading the responsible response to this, say, "Gee, it would sure be nice if that now-deleted organism were still in place," you say, "Oh, thank goodness we eliminated that "unnecessary" function." scheiss us all.
 

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Basically, there are people who have come in contact with people who have the virus. In South Korea, those people were tested, it came up positive, and they were quarantined. They did not further spread the disease even though they felt fine, because they knew they were carrying the virus. We don't have that in this country, our "feel fine" people go about their daily lives and have no clue they are infected, oftentimes days or even weeks later, infecting others along the way until they present symptoms.

This is why I think the number of cases being reported is wildly underestimated and the mortality rate being reported is wildly overestimated. It almost has to be.
 

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Jesus mother scheissing Christ. Dude ELIMINATES *PRECISELY* the kind of government group that is designed to deal with crises such as the one in question. . . Short-sighted scheisss say, "Oh good, eliminate govt waste," and then when that VERY decision comes back to haunt ALL of us, when according to the doctors leading the responsible response to this, say, "Gee, it would sure be nice if that now-deleted organism were still in place," you say, "Oh, thank goodness we eliminated that "unnecessary" function." scheiss us all.

you’ve convinced me our species can’t survive this.
 

flyfishingfrog

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Basically, there are people who have come in contact with people who have the virus. In South Korea, those people were tested, it came up positive, and they were quarantined. They did not further spread the disease even though they felt fine, because they knew they were carrying the virus. We don't have that in this country, our "feel fine" people go about their daily lives and have no clue they are infected, oftentimes days or even weeks later, infecting others along the way until they present symptoms.

On that chart above, we are taking Italy's approach of only testing people who are showing symptoms. It is not going well for Italy, and it has made containment in this country impossible to the point where our officials have basically admitted the ship has sailed on it.
So you missed my point- you have been told to stay home for the next two weeks and “social distance” yourself which is a nice fancy way of saying self quarantine

if you have it and know it from a test but are not in a high risk group - this will keep you from spreading it to other people including those that are high risk

if you have it and don’t know it - this will keep you from giving it to other’s unknowingly

if you don’t have it - this will keep you from getting it

you don’t need a damn test - you need to do what you were told to do by the government and the medical community