Heroes of 2020 What Marcus Rashford's campaign for hungry children tells us about . The Benin Dialogue Group announced it had brokered an agreement that will see "some of the most iconic" of the bronzes returned to Benin City, Nigeria, where they will be housed in the soon-to-be-built Benin Royal Museum. If you think 14 is the wrong decision for the boundary, a better argument is a rebuttal of the strongest case for 14 rather than a rebuttal of a straw-man version of it. My first reaction, years and years ago, was thats awful. And they will go looking for parts of the past that aren't on the curriculum, and they evidently do. The Coldest Case in Laramie: yet another bleak true crime podcast, From Sophie Mackintosh to Stephen Moss: new books reviewed in short, Universal Credit falls short of covering the bare essentials. Yet American slave-produced raw cotton continued to feed the 4,500 mills of Lancashire. I know. Theres no point pretending Europeans who profited from either the transatlantic slave trade or the use of slave labour in the Americas were somehow doing a favour to the slaves involved, even if, as it happens but their owners could not have predicted, their surviving descendants ended up financially better off on average than the counterfactual of remaining in Africa. People seem pretty much agreed on what is right and what is wrong. In the case of slavery the answer is clear. I hadnt gotten far when she stopped me cold, pointing out that her best friend, a 15 year old girl knitting beside a window in her house, was machine gunned by an American P-51 pilot. Prof Olusoga says statues, such as those of slave traders . Id agree that attitudes in the UK are approaching that situation, but theres still a long, long way to go yet. Needless to say they should pay us reparations for this too. See, five years ago I wouldnt have written a crass comment like that, but hey, times achanging and as financially independent with some FU-money, I dont have to worry about cancellation culture, LOL. (and white people was pretty much the British). not at all to disparage your ancestors GC. Theres no point pretending Europeans who profited from either the transatlantic slave trade or the use of slave labour in the Americas were somehow doing a favour to the slaves involved. Just means they werent alone in being in the wrong. Societies have what morals suit them. The publication in 1852 of Uncle Toms Cabin, by the American abolitionist Harriet Beecher Stowe, swelled national sympathy for the plight of black slaves. By David Dabydeen (Photo By Alamy) Nineteen eighty-four was a transformative year for David Olusoga. It's all down to people in their 20s, those at school and in their teens, who have a relationship with history which, says Prof Olusoga, is profoundly different from that of their parents and grandparents. Anglo-Saxons had slaves. Then the adult men became profitable too. I can then give him the details of other descendants, he can apologise to and compensate. if he wants to be an historian he should present a fair and realistic picture of what happened, Your email address will not be published. They all get it from White people inciting violence. Roman writers such as Pliny who chronicled or rather fabricated African life shaped perceptions of a continent populated by anthropophagi and other fantastic creatures, half-human, half-animal. Country Star Kacey Musgraves: Voting for Trump Is an Act of Violence. Have you ever read the account by Ibn Fadlan of a Viking funeral in Russia? And tolerance is not a given. As it happens, I dont believe in sins of the fathers passing down the generations. How does it benefit anyone to make an issue about particular events? That is a strawman argument at its best. No other race / culture was willing and able to do that. They deliberately bought skewed mostly male gender balance. White people are unique in ending slavery across the world*. Not good. And the Domesday Book even counts slaves as a separate category below the unfree peasants (villans, bordars and cottars) those owed service to a Lord who could order them to move about and could say yes or no to their proposed marriages, but unlike slaves he didnt own them, couldnt sell them, and they had property rights to at least a smallholding. Moreover its arguably unjust that only victims of still-extant states have a route to compensation whereas people from ethnic groups roughly contemporaneously massacred, enslaved and sacrificed by the Aztec Empire have nobody to sue. Because it isnt about who you are, its about who your ancestors were. He was a prominent figure in the campaign to abolish slavery. Id say the same to the Black Lives Matter people. It costs money to replace them and after a famine the price of slaves would rise. I think it's an astonishing achievement.". Back in the heyday of blogging, perhaps ten years ago or so, there was a blogger calling him/herself The Heresiarch who enjoyed running against received opinions. The arguments do you want to get shaken down for several trillion? Wider imperialism reparations that include South Asia, China for the Opium Wars and so on, surely even more prohibitively costly, regardless of how effective the education system gets at making young Brits feel a vague sense of guilt about it all. Id say this to Mr Olusoga. To be honest, I was a bit sceptical about the Olympics coming to London, but the atmosphere across the capital was genuinely wonderful . So 10.416 were sold by the Africans every month for one hundred years, There will be no peace on this issue until black people acknowledge their own responsibility for the trade. But werent they lucky compared to the other Germans in Stalingrad? There is the Push argument and the Pull argument. It is a good deed that must not go unpunished. I learned the hard way. Duke University professor, William Darity Jr, and writer, Kirsten Mullen, jointly published a report for The Roosevelt Institute, an American liberal think tank, laying out a case for slavery reparations. Tull played professional football for Northampton but instead of signing up for Glasgow Rangers, he enlisted. 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Like I said, as a mental exercise, if I do my best good faith effort to imagine an argument for reparations, I reckon it would concern harms committed by the state (which unlike the slave traders and owners, is still about today) and an argument that it breached some alleged fundamental/universal doctrine of law so that even the states efforts to put the slave industry on a legal footing were null and void. Fair point. All in all your typical West African is far more likely to have ancestral connections to the slave trade than your typical Brit. And the fact youre moved to tears by discovering for the first time a great-great-great-grandmother of yours was a prostitute single-mum with seven kids or a great-x5-uncle you had never heard of was imprisoned for murder, well, your utter lack of knowledge simply reveals how little youve been influenced by them, so youre hardly discovering a new facet of yourself at all. Kyle Rittenhouse, unlike the rest of their sorry asses, did something. This is indeed tu quoque. This ignorant fellow should study historical facts, rather than believing and repeating lies and half-truths. "They look to history not just for inspiration and comfort, not just for heroes and for glorious chapters; they look for history expecting to find challenging stories, painful stories, dark truths, villains as well as heroes. Well one economist has worked out the amount to be paid (although not on a damages basis, when one imagines blacks might end up paying whites, but on a close the wealth gap basis): A renowned economist has said that $12 trillion should be afforded to black Americans in reparation for slavery to help the close wealth gap. Youre right, MBE. Indeed in many cases, whose ancestors didnt even live in France or England at the relevant time. "They were barely known even to historians. Will Britain change? Whoever has the upper-hand in power political, cultural, economic, military or whatever other form is decisive at that moment. They are now CM scum and couldnt care less about America. The rest apart from Ireland (17, partly due to influence of aforementioned Patrick) set it younger. Well whats the point of pretending it doesnt also induce moral disgust in me, just in case someone mistakes it for guilt, or an admission of liability? Read about our approach to external linking. Would probably have taken your suggestion as a challenge. Different people can argue the toss from different viewpoints and perspectives but in many ways their arguments pass each other like ships in the night, because they havent all got nobodys got an absolute frame of reference to judge things with respect to. Fuck right off As a winning debating strategy. If black lives really mattered these people would be protesting the 500 shot dead so far by predominantly black men in Chicago this year. Over 1000 years in Britain. Those aged 11-14 have to be taught about the British Empire between 1745-1901, however the slave trade is one of nine examples given by the Department of Education on what can be taught. By a Senegalese author: The veiled genocide = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxc5ENT8ajg, MyBurningEars August 30, 2020 at 11:52 am Slavery within West African societies being different again I dont think the places with very high rates of local slavery were anything like the sugar plantations. Its been banned for two centuries in Britain. The details of difference are fairly minor. . The rest of this looks like the usual white washing (so to speak) of African slavery. History is just one awful thing after another. David Olusoga meets Janice Haber and her family, the descendents of Jewish . This seems rather unlikely. But those were in those long-lost days when democrats and republicans could talk to each other and agree to disagree while both leaving the conversation a little the wiser. Sugar was king: originally a luxury, it became one of the main sources of calories for the British poor. This is a moral argument. And so many hundreds of thousands of British workers were directly dependent on slavery (from sailors to those who built, rigged and repaired ships) that it was easy to turn a blind eye to the inhumanity. In 1860, cotton goods accounted for 40 per cent of all British exports. They did not care much for adult males. So he calls himself a Geordie. There are probably a thousand organisations, charities and assorted grifters who would happily cash your cheque. His autobiography, The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, details how he was sold into slavery aged 11, his experience of travelling the world as slave to a Royal Navy officer - who renamed him Gustavus Vassa - and how he bought his freedom from his final master, an English merchant in Montserrat. Those who grew rich on slavery and the slave trade were not neutral and no achievement or act of philanthropy justifies airbrushing their involvement from history.. So this race baiter can try his guilt trip on someone else. Nineteen eighty-four was a transformative year for David Olusoga. Shouldnt matter whether some long-dead relative fought long ago for or against (not at all to disparage your ancestors GC, who all sound very sound) in terms of whether somethings your fault. In 1986 I came across the book Staying Power by the British journalist Peter Fryer. Mans a loon. In 1796, a bill was defeated by only four votes: a group of abolitionist MPs went to the opera and missed the vote. Presumably there were normal times when food was cheap that you fed your workers and didnt seek to replace them in the way Olusoga means. Women such as Elizabeth Heyrick continued to lobby for the abolition of slavery. The many African-American abolitionists, such as Frederick Douglass, who visited Britain from the 1840s onwards, were well received and, again, thousands of people greeted them and raised money to support their cause. The Celtic version of slavery (which ran to quite a different model) was still going on in the places the Romans didnt reach. Video1894 shipwreck confirms tale of treacherous lifeboat, How 10% of Nigerian registered voters delivered victory, Sake brewers toast big rise in global sales, The Indian-American CEO who wants to be US president, Blackpink lead top stars back on the road in Asia, Exploring the rigging claims in Nigeria's elections, 'Wales is in England' gaffe sparks TikToker's trip. Britain was happy to force the Bevan Boys down coal mines. After decades of complaints, the Royal African Company lost its monopoly in 1712 and, Olusoga writes, Independent traders were turned loose upon the shores of Africa. These traders had argued (stone-blind to irony) that the right to enslave Africans was a defining feature of English freedom and that the Royal African Company had breached their status as free-born Englishmen. Separated from home and family and landed in the West Indies (countless numbers dying of suffocation during the journey, given that the people traffickers were packing the holds to maximise profits), the Africans had no recourse to the law, much less the conscience of their captors. As a nation, we still have only a dim understanding of the slave system that funded Sloanes collecting. But you need a different approach if you dont think great-grandkids of the Confederacy are still fair game.) Maybe someone should advise him to button his lip before he stirs up something he may not like. Its an interesting exercise to consider, given we live within such a system, how or whether that contradiction can be settled. Arguably wrong in a crimes against humanity way (similar language of natural justice and universal morality indeed being used by the abolitionists and the UK itself when it tried to enforce a ban on the trade) that made it inherently illegal even when governments tried to put it on a legal footing. You can pay all the reparation for historical slavery related wrongs, real or imaginary, you want. Video, 00:02:30. That was a bad experience but he should know that you cannot judge a whole country by what happened when he was young. Olusoga poses as an objective historian and says he is not there to bring comfort to people. I cant see this one surviving people being expected to dig into their pockets for a few trillion. You might have heard of a Romano-British chap called Patrick, got enslaved and nabbed to Ireland? Long after he had published Corydon, his defence of pederasty. It was, I believe, the first book I ever bought for myself with my own money. Tim may be wrong about stuff, but ..that, ultimately, makes up for his beating squirrels to death for a hobby, Tim Worstall a horrid man who is anti-minimum wage among other repugnant things Socialist News. And that still stands even if there really are a bunch of torturing murderers out there too. He has discovered new and exciting research materials in African archives, among them the Register of Liberated Africans in Sierra Leone, which list names, bodily details, ethnicity and origins, thus putting a human face on people otherwise treated as fodder and statistics. In America few were castrated, which is why there are now >40 million descendants there. Olusoga, who is half-Nigerian, traces this focus to his mother telling him when he was a child that Nigerian soldiers served in World War II. The government has said the "flexibility within the history curriculum means that there is the opportunity for teachers to teach about BAME (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic) history across a spectrum of themes and eras" so it did "not believe it was necessary to change the curriculum". They are pretty much airbrushed from history, whereas the transatlantic slave trade seems to be wall-to-wall on our TV screens and in our school textbooks. It does not take people long to starve to death and slaves were paid for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestmannaeyjar, Slavery in England definitely continued for a couple of generations after the Norman Conquest and Bristol was a major export centre, though there were attempts to ban the export trade in particular (https://www.historytoday.com/archive/normans-and-slavery-breaking-bonds has some interesting quotes from the time). And the third, fourth, fifth, and so on. That assumes an increase in demand. My family did nothing. Purely speculatively, and as a matter of prediction rather than judging whats best, its hard to imagine large-scale reparations ever being adopted in Blighty because the ratio of losers to winners with the vote (presuming eg British Asians would be ineligible for compensation) is going to remain unfavourable and the cost of reparations across the relevant parts of the old Empire (if youre compensating British Jamaicans, presumably youre going to compensate all the Jamaicans in Jamaica once youve accepted the principle) would be considerable. It seems absurd to me that anyone should be concerned about what happened 200 or 500 years ago. Under English law, damages are assessed as being that amount needed to restore them to the position they would have been, had the event claimed against not occurred. There is plenty of slavery about we just do not call it that. Like I need to hand my cash to the next lass of Rus descent I see, lest she remind me of some unlucky slave-girl that may or may not have perished at the hands of my maybe-ancestors? They are stupid false for America. They also ran a slave trade to the Ottoman empire and white slavery in the north without any help from Europeans. This is because forgetting slavery means forgetting its victims. Theres an argument about judging people by the standard of their times, though even in the 1500s moral and religious objections to the slave trade had been made and the rationale of crimes against humanity is that some things are so abhorrent they could never truly be legal no matter what moral code the perpetrators justified themselves with. Oblong, A renowned economist has said that $12 trillion should be afforded to black Americans in reparation for slavery to help the close wealth gap.. Not to say it was nice.. Rapidly promoted to sergeant, then second lieutenant, he led white British troops into action and died in 1918, having been mentioned in despatches and recommended for the Military Cross. We are told that an estimated 12.5 million slaves were shipped from Africa to the West Indies and elsewhere in the 18th century. Anyway, I digress, we did have at some point, a gang of pedos turn up and put their case, reasonably, and were tolerated and conversed with. Blacks like Mr Olusoga despite endlessly banging on about it seem to overlook the fact that they are in a minority. P rofessor David Olusoga is reviewing a disorientating year from a familiar place: his white-painted study, the one with the guitars hanging from its walls. I assume these were usually killed before Europeans turned up and bought them. But that ignores how the demand of outsiders led inevitably to far more supply being provided. This year, return to Neverland. Well the universe has a law of gravity but it doesnt have a law of should there be reparations. So is Richard Murphy. A newsletter showcasing the finest writing from the ideas section, covering political ideas, philosophy, criticism and intellectual history - sent every Wednesday. If slavery really mattered theyd be campaigning for reparations from the blacks and arabs/moslems who were doing it long before the white man arrived in Africa and was far more devastating. Might, in this case, being 100% of the debating point. Its been banned for two centuries in Britain. Abolition was the first mass philanthropic movement in Britain, and it ended the slave trade in 1807. I havent said anything about my personal sense of guilt or responsibility. While I dont think they persuaded anyone, they did shift perspectives a bit. Like I said before, tolerance is in the gift of the powerful. A covering letter would be a courtesy but probably not a necessity. 7 years was the average working lifespan so it is said. If the alternative was that they were killed? Giles Terera, the Olivier award-winning British performer who starred in the popular theatre production Hamilton, has . Eventually, 11,000 separate British slave-trading expeditions resulted in the trafficking of three-and-a-half-million Africans to the New World plantations, the greatest forced migration in modern history until the 20th century. A weekly round-up of some of the best articles featured in the most recent issue of the New Statesman, sent each Saturday. Used to be on a long-dead and much missed forum where the topics of debate ranged far wider than they do here (as did the viewpoints I think it would be useful if us right-wing brexity mob didnt chase off the sensible non-right-wing non-brexity types so much). I was uncomfortable using it. This is nothing to do with slavery or as with black lives matter, blacks being shot, and everything to do with a shakedown of the white man. "We are on a journey in this country and other countries are on similar journeys to try and reconnect to parts of our history that had traditionally been edited out," adds Prof Olusoga. Would the good professor really be so different if genealogical records could prove he had African ancestors who owned African slaves? That may have caused more violence. 5 quotes from David Olusoga: 'On a peninsula protruding into one of the great highways of the Atlantic slave trade, a few hundred refugees from British slavery in North America were attempting to recreate the social structures of Northern Europe in the Middle Ages.', 'Time and again events and phenomena that we think we know and understand contain within them lost or camouflaged connections to . Get back to me in seven years, when youre ready to order. It was such a brilliantly organised programme of mass protest that slavery was declared abolished in 1833: 46,000 slave owners were given 20m in compensation (17bn in todays money), the largest payout in British history and 40 per cent of all government spending that year. TV presenter David Olusoga has told the Edinburgh TV Festival his career had sometimes left him feeling "crushed, isolated," and "disempowered". Within the EU the two most common ages of consent are 14 and 15 (if Ive done my counting correctly), though in some but not all cases thats with additional restrictions on permissible age gaps. Or anything to do with slavery. Nineteen eighty-four affected him in another way: the publication of Peter Fryers groundbreaking Staying Power: The History of Black People in Britain introduced him to the scholarship needed to understand his position in Britain. Britain's role in the transatlantic slave trade is part of the national curriculum, although it is not statutory. December 2020. It could have ended earlier, but the planter interests in parliament defeated William Wilberforces attempts. The vast majority of Americans are not guilty. Dr Peter Olusoga is a senior psychology lecturer at Sheffield Hallam university. . They did not pay for them and were going to kill a lot of them anyway. (Im just presenting the case here in reality there are obviously some big questions about the logic of Nuremberg etc, just as there are questions about how judges in Common Law occasionally summon up things as if they had always and forever been a part of the Law, albeit previously unrecorded, rather than something the judge just made up.). We pretend we do not like slavery but actually we do not like slave traders. Rather that certain western states, still in existence therefore potentially still liable, regulated and indeed encouraged the development of both the transatlantic slave trade and the slave-labour economic systems of the colonies, at scales that were unusual in the long and varied history of slavery, and levels of brutality that stood out too. Less flippantly, Western countries are not of one mind when it comes to the age of consent sex with a 14 year-old is legal in some countries, criminal in others (yes yes, paedophilia versus ephebophilia etc, you got me).. It isnt happening now. Definitely didnt die out with the Romans. The book accompanying. No. His black half can get the half-payment direct from his white half. Vikings took slaves, including exporting Anglo-Saxons (you must have heard the quote Non Angli, sed Angeli about the English slaves being sold in Italy? Maybe Europeans did increase demand. In the late 1800's and early 1900's, 30,000 Jewish migrants from Russia and Eastern Europe settled in Manchester. Would also apply even if down a different family line there had been beneficiaries of the slave trade. Its very noticable how nobodys mentioning that the Spanish Empire were doing this for several centuries before the British got involved. BurningEars August 30, 2020 at 3:07 pm Theres a flaw in arguments of the form frankly you should be glad I murdered your sister. Some other buyer would have taken them if they werent shipped out, and Western (or Arab) traders were just changing the ownership and location, the sins of the slave-raiders being theirs alone to bear. Ive always agreed that the Africans should pay reparations to the rest of us for dumping all those people they wanted to get rid of on us. 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