When you purchase an independently reviewed book through our site, we earn an affiliate commission. Please try again. They just seem to be coming from such a simple and fundamental misunderstanding., What a translation is doing and what it should do has been a source of vigorous debate since there were texts to translate. "[18], Wilson has noted that being a woman did not predetermine her critical work as a scholar, reader or translator, and has expressed discomfort with the media reception of her work in terms of gender, since it tends to obscure her primary goals (such as the use of regular meter and attention to sound), and risks erasing the work of other female Homerists and female translators. The first English Bibles translator, John Wycliffe, was disinterred and his bones were burned for the heresy of translating into English, and his successor, William Tyndale, was excommunicated, sentenced to death by strangulation and burned at the stake. Many of these works are the first English versions by women. Called Septuagint after its 70 translators, this Greek version became a foundational text, both for the early Christian church and for the impossible standard to which all subsequent translations are held: faithfulness. I liked more or less everything about it. Rigorous in its readings, Wilsons study is also frequently touching. Theres also the issue of tokenism, as if youd know absolutely everything you could possibly want to know about my interpretive and literary choices because of my sex. I dont know what to say to those people, honestly. Wilson laughed her buoyant laugh. The reader doesnt even see Odysseus until the fifth of the poems 24 books, where we learn that he has been living on an island with Calypso, a goddess, for seven years; that, earlier, he was detained by another goddess, Circe, with whom he also shared a bed; that the Sirens, as he navigates, call to him, desiring him; that a young princess falls in love with him; that, on all sides, women are temptresses, and whereas he submits, we are to understand that Penelope, alone, assailed, remains faithful. Professor Emily Wilson, Classical Studies and Comparative Literature, "Iliad Translation In Progress: A reading.". Rather, they were slaves, and if women, only barely. Mostly, Wilson recalls a quiet, almost somber childhood with her younger sister, the writer Bee Wilson, and her father, the prolific biographer, novelist and critic A.N. After all, women from a wide variety of backgrounds are now able to enrol at prestigious universities and colleges and learn Latin and Greek from scratch; knowledge of the ancient languages is no longer open only to men. Emily Wilson 2021. and a cultural landmark (Charlotte Higgins, ) that would forever change how Homer is read in English. Wilson doesnt shy from colloquialisms: fighting solo, pep talk, on day eighteen. And there are some daring choices. They knew that an encounter with this alien language and culture could help them move, feel, think and write differently. One characteristic of Homeric verse is the formulaic epithet: much-suffering Odysseus, lovely-ankled Ino. These arose as byproducts of oral composition pitons, Mendelsohn calls them, stuck into the vast face of the epic to provide a momentary respite for both bard and hearers. [19] Following many other Homeric scholars, she has argued that the hierarchical societies depicted in the Homeric poems are not viewed uncritically by the narrator, and that the poems include many voices and many distinct points of view. Young female slaves in a palace would have had little agency to resist the demands of powerful men. So it would be GREAT if you can mention the name of the translator in the product description. , ISBN-10 The frustrations of the teenage Telemachus come through clearly. The Iliad and Odyssey are composed in a long dactylic line (tumpety-tumpety-tum) thats poorly suited to the natural rhythms of English. Wed 22 Aug 2018 02.29 EDT Last modified on Tue 28 Aug 2018 11.53 EDT. Celebrated for her vivid and lyrical translation of Homer's The Odyssey, Wilson will read from new work currently in progress: translations of Homer's Iliad and Oedipus . Pre-order Price Guarantee! Try again. Where Fagles wrote whores and the likes of them and Lattimore the creatures the original Greek, Wilson explained, is just a feminine definite article meaning female ones. To call them whores and creatures reflects, for Wilson, a misogynistic agenda: their translators interpretation of how these females would be defined. The classicist Emily Wilson has given Homers epic a radically contemporary voice. She shows that part of the answer concerns the social roles for women that are modelled in Athenian tragedy. Close to perfect for the first time reader, Reviewed in the United States on February 12, 2013. Emily Wilson, the first woman to translate the Odyssey into English, is as concerned with these surrounding characters as she is with Odysseus himself. 180 Dr Emily Wilson @EmilyRCWilson 7:05 pm - 7:55 pm EDT Room 145 (Street Level, North Building) Alberto Manguel discusses "Homer's The Iliad and The Odyssey: A Biography" (Grove), Madeline Miller discusses "Circe" (Little, Brown) and Emily Wilson discusses her translation of "The Odyssey" (Norton) in a panel conversation. Its describing a boys club. I'm posting this review because Amazon keeps emailing me asking how many stars I would give the Iliad and every time I see that email come up I just think "oh my god stop asking me this book ripped my soul to shreds and rendered me void of any spirit for a week PLEASE DON'T REMIND ME." Although translation might seem a natural step for a scholar preoccupied by the connections between antiquity and later texts, Wilson was dissuaded from pursuing it. But Emily Wilson's literal and precise . But now, at long last, we are beginning to see an outpouring of translations of Greek and Latin texts by women. Emily Wilson is Professor in the Department of Classical Studies and Chair of the Program in Comparative Literature and Literary Theory at the University of Pennsylvania. A selection of Senecas plays appeared in 2010; four plays by Euripides in 2016. Why was tragedy so important for women of this period? His Odyssey was archaic and fragmentary, an artifact forged by firelight and rusted by time. , ISBN-13 Reviewed in the United States on April 13, 2021. Armed with a sharp, scholarly rigour, she has produced a translation that exposes centuries of masculinist readings of the poem.. Which, of course, is absurd and rather pseudo-feminist. In her reading of the modernist poet HD (Hilda Doolittle), Prins shows brilliantly that the attempt to translate Euripides lyric meters into English enabled her to invent a new kind of free verse in English. None is independently striking; their force comes from their juxtaposition with one another pat pat pat, like raindrops on a metal roof. Sorry, there was a problem loading this page. Homer was the first Greek writer whose work survives. Wilson commented on the challenges of translating Seneca's ornate rhetorical style, saying that Senecan bombast in contemporary English risks sounding "too silly to be impressive. In episode one of Among the Ancients, Emily and Tom begin with a beginning, Homer's Iliad: its depictions of anger and grief, of capricious gods and warriors' bodies, and the sheer narrative force of the great epic of the Trojan War.. Here is how Wilson renders their undoing: If I was really going to be radical, Wilson told me, returning to the very first line of the poem, I wouldve said, polytropos means straying, and andra man, the poems first word means husband, because in fact andra does also mean husband, and I couldve said, Tell me about a straying husband. And thats a viable translation. As well as The Aeneid, the prolific and versatile Ruden has produced wonderfully original versions of Aeschylus (The Oresteia), as well as Aristophanes, Apuleius, Petronius, Augustine and more. The whole question of What is that story? is going to depend on the language, the words that you use.. We dont share your credit card details with third-party sellers, and we dont sell your information to others. The media wouldnt have cared otherwise. How, I asked, would she address such a complaint from someone in her field? Socially and emotional complex beyond my expectations, Reviewed in the United States on June 8, 2016. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 24, 2021. The inability to take classical texts for granted is a great gift that some female translators are able to use as a point of leverage, to shift the canon to a different and unexpected place. These Wilson shares. I love that about it., Although Wilson was undecided on a direction after taking her undergraduate degree she had thoughts of doing law she ultimately chose to do further studies in English literature at Oxford while she figured her way forward, rereading some of her favorite books, particularly Miltons Paradise Lost. Emerging with a sense that the writers she appreciated most were in dialogue with antiquity, Wilson pursued a Ph.D. in classics and comparative literature at Yale. To read a translation is like looking at a photo of a sculpture: It shows the thing, but not from every angle. Emily Rose Caroline Wilson (born 1971) is a British classicist and the Professor of Classical Studies at the University of Pennsylvania. I wanted there to be a sense, Wilson told me, that maybe there is something wrong with this guy. Homer must have had an amazing memory but was helped by the formulaic poetry style of the time. In 2006, she was named a fellow of the American Academy in Rome in Renaissance & Early Modern scholarship, and in 2019 she was named a MacArthur Fellow. When Telemachus visits Menelaus, a slave girl brings him bread and many canaps. (Well, there is a wedding in progress.) The Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library hosts the Mark Strand Memorial Reading Series and invites accomplished American poets to read their work. We are in a bull market, especially in the US, for new translations of classical texts. Just the fact of never having a female teacher, but its a difference to how you feel when you dont have any mentors who dont even know what it would be like. Of the 60 or so answers to the polytropos question to date, the 36 given above couldnt be less uniform (the two dozen I omit repeat, with minor variations, earlier solutions); what unites them is that their translators largely ignore the ambiguity built into the word theyre translating. Department Colloquium: Emily Wilson (Penn) "Iliad 24: A Reading from My Translation" Thursday, November 4, 2021 - 4:45pm to 6:15pm 402 Cohen Hall and also on Zoom, registration below. Though she has resisted them, the women in her palace have not. Prins gives a fascinating account of the importance of Greek tragedy in translation and theatrical production in the colleges of higher education for women that emerged in this period. Biography. For hundreds of years, the study of ancient Greece and Rome was largely the domain of elite white men and their bored sons. Or, it could be that hes this untrustworthy kind of guy who is always going to get out of any situation by turning it to his advantage. Perhaps the most famous such expression is in Matthew Arnolds On Translating Homer, his series of lectures in 1860 when he was Oxford professor of poetry. 3. [17], Beginning, "Tell me about a complicated man", Wilson's metrical verse includes some creative and unusual phrases (such as "journeyways of fish"), although much of her verse translation uses "plain, contemporary language",[18] attending to both Homer's "fleetness" and "rhythm and musicality". Reviewed in the United Kingdom on July 26, 2019. I am learning it in a whole new way with the Iliad. Emily Wilson. Why put oneself in this difficult, alienating position? . : There was a problem loading your book clubs. But theres a further wrinkle. Like every translator, Wilson brings out some features more clearly than others. I'm terms of being well-done poetically, I'd recommend Robert Fitzgerald's translation (he also did the Odyssey and the Aeneid).. It's worth mentioning, though, that he's one of the translators Emily Wilson picks out as making some needlessly sexist choices - e.g. The result is an idiom of great spareness and simplicity: But I am sure that he is not yet dead. Bring your club to Amazon Book Clubs, start a new book club and invite your friends to join, or find a club thats right for you for free. Wilson gives us the simile, one of the loveliest in Homer. But Wilsons rendering is remarkable in other ways as well. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on April 23, 2018. The myths of Io and Prometheus were, for these women, symbolic of their own struggle to find mobility within the constraints of translation and Victorian literary norms. Both works attributed to Homer - The Iliad and The Odyssey - are over ten thousand lines long in the original. The most highly praised male classicist translators of our era such as Robert Fagles write with a confident exuberance, often expanding or adding to the original. Not all female translators would describe themselves as feminists and many female classical translators, like almost all their male counterparts, do not see gender as a central element in their work. Its all going to be talked out. Wilson. On the other hand, as Prins says, these plays could be read more than one way. A dramatic reading of two early books of the poem, in current in-progress iambic pentameter verse translation, followed by Q and A. Hopscotch Translation Series: Lawrence Venuti in convo w/ Emily Wilson (Philadelphia, PA), Henry Moore Foundation: ORDER Art, Classicism, and Discourse, from 1755 to Today (Leeds, UK), https://complit.sas.upenn.edu/event/professor-emily-wilson-iliad-translation-progress-reading. Like female scientists (42 volumes, as opposed to 303 for scientists) or male nurses (three to 377), female classicists is a category that has been assumed not to exist. [12][13], In January 2020, Wilson joined the Booker Prize judging panel, alongside Margaret Busby (chair), Lee Child, Sameer Rahim and Lemn Sissay. And it is a damned refreshing take on Homer! But altogether its as good an Odyssey as one could hope for. The potential shame of pronouncing a French word wrong was pretty inhibiting, Wilson said, laughing. As a young woman, Elizabeth Barrett Browning made a melancholy, stuffy, diligently rhyming translation of Prometheus Bound a play that presumably spoke deeply to this immobilised invalid and returned to the play 23 years later to create a far more expansive and fluent version. When the Trojans learn Achilles is not participating in the siege they counterattack. I think I would enjoy reading this aloud more than silently. Reviewers will say that.. Im trying to serve something.. The mood and voice needs to be distinctive and entirely itself. Basically, it's the first time I'm reading The Odyssey without dozing off on every other page. Last Name. You might be inclined to suppose that, over the course of nearly half a millennium, we must have reached a consensus on the English equivalent for an old Greek word, polytropos. That inheritance was as much literary as it was a matter of temperament. Alexanders Iliad mirrors the length and redundancies of the original, providing a welcome reminder of how distant Homers world is from our own. Norgates of many a turn; George Musgraves tost to and fro by fate; the Rev. One might assume optimistically that things have changed. But to the modern English reader who does not know Greek, does a man of many turns suggest the doubleness of the original word a man who is either supremely in control of his life or who has lost control of it? Amazing read. On the wall hung pictures of Wilsons three young daughters; the windows behind her framed a gray sky that, as I arrived, was just beginning to dim. In 2010, she translated Seneca's tragedies, with an introduction and notes, in Six Tragedies of Seneca. Email Address * Subject * Message * Thank you! Wilson later reflected that she was interested in the ways and methods that Socrates would educate people, but also Socrates' death as an image: "What does it mean to live with so much integrity that you can be absolutely yourself at every moment, even when you've just poisoned yourself? Wilsons unadorned but resonant language plumbs the poems profound pathos and reveals its characters as palpably real, even complicated, human beings. Zeus is the poems prevailing god, and what men do, or are willing to do, in love and war and in the friendships that arise in war and its losses, are the poems preoccupations. When Emily Wilsons translation of The Odyssey appeared in 2017revealing the ancient poem in a contemporary idiom that was fresh, unpretentious, and lean (Madeline Miller, Washington Post)critics lauded it as a revelation (Susan Chira, New York Times) and a cultural landmark (Charlotte Higgins, Guardian) that would forever change how Homer is read in English. It was revolutionary, Wilson tells me, with uncomplicated pride, and it was resented: I was the founding member of the Somerville crche. I think he had a good classics major undergraduate kind of Greek, but I think its all to do with a particular notion of aesthetics and class, the whole plainness and nobility. Its about noblesse oblige and youre going to be the kind of gentleman whos going to have gone to Rugby and that will be the kind of language that we speak: the classy kind of language. Wilson is more understated: Tell me about a complicated man. Too understated, one might think at first but gradually the adjective comes to feel just right. and Yale University (Ph.D.). We can only hope that, in the coming years, more British and American women including people who are neither ladies nor white will begin to translate Greek and Roman texts into English. Her books include The Death of Socrates: Hero, Villain, Chatterbox, Saint (2007) and The Greatest Empire: A Life of Seneca (2014). It took away a whole level of shame., As an undergraduate at Balliol College, Oxford, Wilson studied classics and philosophy. In Robert Fagless much-praised translation of the poem, Telemachus says, before he executes the palace women on his fathers command: No clean death for the likes of them, by god!/Not from me they showered abuse on my head, my mothers too!/You sluts the suitors whores!. The Illiad takes place during the last month of the 10 year siege of Troy. Bought in good faith. "We discussed toxic masculinity, pseudo feminism, and which pronouns are most appropriate for Homer," says Purkert. On Wednesday, translator Emily Wilson GRD '01 delivered the 2020 edition of the Mark Strand Memorial Reading, where she read from her in-progress translations of Homer's "Iliad" and Sophocles' "Oedipus Tyrannus" on a Zoom webinar.. Complicated: the brilliance of Wilsons choice is, in part, its seeming straightforwardness. The main purpose of my work is that I should entertain the people. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. The spell of Greek, for Virginia Woolf and many women of her generation, lay in its near-unintelligibility: it was a language that drew attention to the foreign element that is present in any language and thus facilitated a shift away from Victorian poetics. However, Prins principal interest is not womens social, sexual and political fight for liberation, but rather their attempt to negotiate constraints and freedom on the page. I just felt like I wanted to spend a little bit longer with Euripides.. If youre unhappy, all you can do is go to your room and cry silently. Her parents divorced shortly before she went to college. The list of English classical translations by contemporary women is distinguished and growing every year: it includes Susanna Braunds Lucan; Diane Arnson Svarliens Euripides; Cynthia Damons Tacitus and Julius Caesar; Alicia Stallings Lucretius; Deborah Robertss Prometheus Bound; Janet Lembkes Virgil and Euripides; Laura Gibbss Aesop; and Anne Carsons innovative, stylish versions of Greek tragedies, as well as her Sappho (also now translated by Diane Rayor). He is celebrated for his argument tying the creation of the Greek alphabet to the recording of the Homeric Poems, but is also well known for his textbooks on Greek myth and Greek history and his work on the history of writing. We feel sadness on both sides when Odysseus sleeps with the nymph Calypso, not wanting her / though she still wanted him. We feel sympathy for Helen, and even for Odysseus slave women, executed for sleeping with the enemy or as Wilson puts it, the things the suitors made them do with them. (This goes further than the Greek, but not further than is allowable.). Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning. Following a lengthy introduction, she provides a translation of Homer's work in iambic pentameter. At the center of each of Homers epics is a warrior. now gives us a complete Homer for our generation. Find all the books, read about the author, and more. Ruden and Carson are able to reimagine English sentences and English poetry through their tense, difficult encounters with Greek and Roman literature. But to consult Wilsons 60 some predecessors, living and dead, is to find that consensus has been hard to come by. We can never be certain that both these stories belonged to Homer. They include the undervaluing of translation as a scholarly activity in the modern academy, which means that, in a world where women are already struggling for legitimacy in a historically male-dominated field, female classicists are not given a strong institutional motive to work on translations. My colleagues told me: You really shouldnt be doing that kind of thing before tenure. From their conversation: Guernica: [The] Timesreferred to you as the first woman to translateThe Odyssey, and I know many other outlets have really focused on this too. I partly just want to shake them and make them see that all translations are interpretations. Most of the criticism Wilson expects, she says, will come from a digging in of the heels: Thats not what it says in the dictionary, and therefore it cant be right! And if you put down anything other than whats said in the dictionary, then, of course, you have to add a footnote explaining why, which means that pretty much every line has to have a footnote. Here is how Wilsons Odyssey begins. Greek maenads were the model for a new, uncorseted way of moving, leaping and dancing. Its not like he ever translated Homer. He himself is still I believe the longest leader of the Conservative Party, and served as Prime Minister for three terms, and helped see through the Reform Act of 1867. Wilson's Odyssey was named by The New York Times as one of its 100 notable books of 2018[15] and it was shortlisted for the 2018 National Translation Award. The first of these changes is in the very first line. Her mother, Katherine Duncan-Jones, a Shakespeare specialist, taught English literature at Oxford; her mothers brother, Roman history at Cambridge; her mothers father, a disappointed philosopher disappointed because, though he went to Cambridge, he couldnt get a job there taught at Birmingham; and her mothers mother, Elsie Duncan-Jones, also at Birmingham, was an authority on the poetry of Andrew Marvell. Very affordable. If youre going to admit that stories matter, Wilson told me, then it matters how we tell them, and that exists on the level of microscopic word choice, as well as on the level of which story are you going to pick to start off with, and then, what exactly is that story? The poem lying open before us was Homers Odyssey, the second-oldest text, after his earlier poem, the Iliad, in a Western tradition impossible to imagine without them. Message * Thank you the model for a new, uncorseted way of moving, and. 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