120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM I'm sure you can find a high mileage 87 TD car and just rebuild the engine and possibly even do a trans swap. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. What engine can fit into this car? Mrten will lower the power to around 860 whp while . In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! Power will be greater with an LS swap. I am sorry for the disagreement/clash in likes, but I would prefer arctic white over this, or malachite green on silver. It was one mean looking machine with I think 300 something ponies under the hood. I think if you're looking for a fast 124, you have a bunch of options that'll be cheaper than swapping a v8 into an I6 car. Navigation Menu. Connect single pin connector by ignition coil, Connect AC compressor wires (blue/green, white, blue/red), Connect throttle position wires (brown/yellow, brown, gray/yellow). As @a777fan said, there are multiple discussions of these types of engine swaps on the forum. However, The flywheel is going to be a problem for you. and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. Sweden for a dyno tune. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. I owned a supra before this car and miss it. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. as for fitting in the 104 engine, it is anyone's guess whether the manifold and down pipes will clear the steering box. changing the clutch and pulling out m104 engine on my 2.0 W201 190Eswap,320e,e320,w124,m104,m104 3.2,mercedes-benz,plasme cutting,mercedes,,190,190e,. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. Set starter in place if it isn't already and reconnect wires. w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Install without transmission. Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. Looks like im gonna be spending a lot of money on this projecthehe. You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. Ive heard opinions that Toyotas 2JZ was heavily inspired by this M104 series, which came out a year before the 2JZ (and ofc the earlier M103 and M110 series from the late 70s). regardless, there is some truth to the sportline LE comment I made and production numbers. you should check on 190rev there's more tuning types there than here. Quote: Originally Posted by oldsinner111. Lengthen and connect the 3 prong connector under fuel distributor for airflow potentiometer (brown/green, blue/black, blue/green), Lengthen and connect the 1 prong coolant temperature sensor (green), Lengthen and connect the 2 prong coolant temperature sensor (brown, green), Lengthen and connect cold start valve wire, Longer CIS 4 prong coolant temperature sensor. I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. Remove with transmission attached. Source: VRP Fab (large build gallery) via ESD reader Piotr. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. Your original gearbox will work fine with the new engine, but bear in mind it's much easier to remove the gearbox and engine together than separate them in the car. All bolt-in, no welding required. CIS 4 prong sensor is now located at the water pump so this needs to be lengthened. Which is still ~1/3 of what the same condition E500E would be. As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. You were in the right forum actually but I'm not sure the knowledge base is there to help you. How much power can you get out of the 16v? i dont think i need to do anything to the firewall. i think you would need to splice int he wiring harness from the 104. it is alot of work if i had to do this i would do a m117 swap. You will need to reclock the alternator by removing the screws holding the 2 halves of the alternator together and turning them to match how a 190E alternator looks. engine alone. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Simply put, the M103 and M104 share the same block, primary differences are the head and the injection setup. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU . What did you need to do to convert the coils from the three coils and three wires to six individual invention coils on the m104 engine? these are quite uncommon. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. Mounting the 190E A/C manifold to the engine block introduces a problem where the A/C compressor can no longer be mounted to the accessory bracket. The steering box is in fact in a different location on the M102 cars versus the 6-cylinder M103 cars. I would also like to do suspension up grades and a EVOII kit in the future. you have a 2.6 sportline 5spd they are super had to come by( ask me how i know) i would leave it alone and do the maintenance to it. The easiest swap out, would be a 90-93 300SL Engine Swap. Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. I guess a V8 it sorta out of the questionand seems kinda pointless. cheap way ,and use procharger instead. My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). Also depends if you are willing to take on a "mechanic's special" that is cheap because they couldn't figure out what's wrong with it. My M104 is a 99 hfm. Yeah, I've got a thread going over there too. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. Hi Adriano. For those unfamiliar with the project, it's powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a . M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. I would like to put an engine in mine that puts out at leat 300maybe 255+. The upper hose needs to be simply matched to the original length of the 190E part and the lower hose comes out to around 20cm (I would try 19.5cm for an easier fit. both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. No matter how i lean it back and forth the steering box is not touching anything, the engine mounts are in the correct place it and it has like a 2-3 cm gap from the starter. Yes, I'm putting the 1995 E420 Special Edition on the block for a number of reasons which I'm not going to expound on here about. What can be done and how much will it cost? Use it however you wish or block it off. Way back in 2007, we were presented with an interesting engine swap. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. These are the prices for the 95 E320 two years ago: $575.00 124 440 56 32 (early model run) $714.76 124 440 29 33 (late model run) You can type in these part numbers (or the number on your current harness) on FastLane to determine the current prices. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. Convert the E320 into a coupe, THEN do the engine swap. The injection system is still CIS and the ignition system is still EZL, but additional work is required to make the swap complete. For reference: I've owned/own 2 M104 swapped 190Es. His forum name is SG Motorsports. Therefore, nothing but good old venerable striahgt 6s. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. I haven't done much looking into the nitty gritty details myself when it comes to the electrical side of the swap, I just know it's becoming increasingly more prevalent. Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. Not needed anyhow. I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. If it was a black 2.6, with gray cladding, that's John's car from the over on the rev. It's 80%. ..looking in that engine bay I understand why, https://teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world. Navigation Menu . Doing the upgrades on an E420 is plug+play, and easily done if you have the ability to handle an engine swap. Originally Posted by Kestas. Once all the wiring is laid out it is pretty simple to figure out. A number of years back I had converted a manual 1987 W124 200 (4 cylinder carb engine) to a 3.6 HFM engine and auto trans. Picture time, A few more things for anyone wanting to do the swap. all that accumulated grease and oil. It replaced the M103 and was replaced by the M112 V6 starting in 1997. Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. Is that a street car? Well my 93 had a 2.85:1 rear diff, and rear sub frame mods r highly recommendedSuspension, well Eibachs is what I useIf you want roll bars, Delsing 500E rollbars, with the ends cut a little to fit the 190E. Would you recomend doing this swap? This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support. I believe the lotus elan used a turbocharged or supercharged 4 banger which produced nice power. Team Lovetap is a Swedish drift team started by driver and fabricator Mrten Stngberg. I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. I've always wondered why people make the wagons accept V8s when it might be easier to make the sedan a wagon (shooting brake, if you will). And isn't the M119.960 slightly wider and taller, making the fit into a 124 even harder? I wasn't kidding about a 6-12 month search nationwide. Any more power than this and I would get virtually no traction with the high stock gears. When you find one, buy it. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. CLK, W209. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Aftermarket is obviously with the LS. Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. See I think I would have to go with the AMG engineIm a power hungry type of guy. . Not to mention, but on the 500E, the computers are located under the hood, and the battery is located in the trunk. used 2jz is about 3500-10000 $. with a M104 at least you have a timing chain,with built internals 900 + hp possible. If the fuel pump runs does this indicate power? Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. For those unfamiliar with the project, its powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. you really should join the 190 forum (sorry, i don't have a link) as He is an electrical wizard. Bolt starter to transmission later. Any slk egne fit in there? I just like to make plan on what and how I am going to do it so when it comes time I know exactly what needs to be done. you have a diamond in the rough. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. Also note that the 1992 M119 engine is a KE-Jetronic engine, whereas the M119 as used in the 500E is LH-Jetronic, and the injection as used on the M104 you mentioned is HFM (essentially Motronic). Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. I have a 1990 190E 2.6the straight six just isnt cutting it performance wise. Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. Another option is to swap in the CIS version of the M104 engine found on the earliest M104 powered cars (1990-1992 300CE and 1990-1993 300SL). I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy. Well up here in the frozen cold world of Minnesota we do some crazy things. You are using an out of date browser. Take whatever "positive vibes" translates to monetarily and treat your 036 with a barrage of restorative upgrades and needed and not-so-needed service and maintenance and probably still have some money to buy $5k euro headlights. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. '84 Euro 500SE, '85 Euro 2.3-16, '51 Euro 170S, '97 Jeep Wrangler Sport, '15 G63 AMG. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. You are using an out of date browser. I believe that the M102, M103 and M104 bellhousing patterns are the same, meaning you can mount a 5-speed transmission from a 300E or 190E onto your M104. Inside the car you find a custom six-point roll cage, Takata 6-point harness, Sparco Evo 2 seats. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. So my question is, can I just find a used M104 3.2 liter engine and ECU, and toss it into my car? It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. Using the ones meant for a W124 will result in the engine sitting too high and interfere with hood closing, Removed the engine mount support arms from the original 190E motor and transferred to the new M104 motor. it isnt a direct swap. The work in the trunk involved installing a new fuel cell, fold-down radiator, expansion tank, and tubular structure. Get the full engine harness, the ezl unit, and the ecu. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. In order to use the M104 CIS intake box, the supply line must be swapped. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums, tongue-in-cheek - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. Makes a fantastic daily driver. MB 300E 24v Turbo MS3X. i have the m102 2.0 in the car as is and i have heard that the problem with having the smaller motor rather than the 2.3 or 2.6 is that the steering box will cause a problem when fitting the engine? via Engine Swap Depot And still, the purists cried, "Heresy!" The car has been completely rebuilt with upgraded suspension, brakes and drift-spec steering. Learn how your comment data is processed. There are two approaches to getting the wiring completed for this swap. The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. Going to add the flywheel magnet to a single mass M103 FW, Forgot to mention this is also a non-ASR engine, the amount of wire harnesses and modules even on the simpler 6cyl is a bit staggering.I think adapting a BMW M50 motronic would probably be easier, Steve Geyer has done this swap with his 190E, he would be an excellent source for this. Swapped! It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v Read More Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six 1994 Mercedes Wagon with a Turbo LSx - Part 14 July 9, 2018 W124 edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. '87--190E 2.3-16v(being rebuilt), '99--C230 Kompressor. You must log in or register to reply here. This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? My daily is an LS swapped 80 series land cruiser. easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. I used 400E brakes, but the nicest is using 95 SL 600 brakes up front and rearThe rear are vented rotors instead of solidI've seen racing slicks lock up with 190Es and no ABS with these brakesBut be prepared for another $1200. Said it made around 345hp(?) Lower hose is only about 20cm long. : 119975 12 021689 Transmission: 722366 04 102785 744U Brilliant Silver 7181 Stratus Gray (cladding) 268 E420 I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. Using the original 190E A/C manifold hoses not work entirely either. I have a friend who had a 3.0L from a 300E in his 190 and it was pretty quick too. The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. I suppose that would work, I'm not sure why the 2.0 steering column is different than 2.3 or 2.6. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. haha, no worries! In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? i'd ditch the 18's and go with 16 or 17's you really don't want to tear apart a good working 2.6 5-spd because they are getting harder and harder to come by. Well, I am right with you. Learn how your comment data is processed. 20cm is slightly too long). Hello, I'm new to the Mercedes world, just picked up a 1993 190e 2.6 sportline 5spd manual for my daily driver. If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. 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