The Curse of Jeremiah Donati

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Should he have fired Gary Patterson because football has had it's troubles the last three years? Should he have fired the basketball coach CDC brought here?

Tell me what he is supposed to do. Should he have gone into Gary Patterson's and Jamie Dixon's offices and given them a pep talk or told them to start winning big now or they're outta here?
 

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Should he have fired Gary Patterson because football has had it's troubles the last three years? Should he have fired the basketball coach CDC brought here?

Tell me what he is supposed to do. Should he have gone into Gary Patterson's and Jamie Dixon's offices and given them a pep talk or told them to start winning big now or they're outta here?

think it would be appropriate if he had discussion with the direction of the basketball program as well as Gary with the football program

he is in charge of a private business that brings in over 100M in revenue a year. his two largest sources of revenue that he has any control over are those programs and the two largest individual expenses are their compensation.

donati's job is to raise funds and make sure our programs are given what they need to compete, but it also is to set expectations and if that is above him or he needs permission to fire a volleyball coach, challenge dixon or whatever we are in trouble
 
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Should he have fired Gary Patterson because football has had it's troubles the last three years? Should he have fired the basketball coach CDC brought here?

Tell me what he is supposed to do. Should he have gone into Gary Patterson's and Jamie Dixon's offices and given them a pep talk or told them to start winning big now or they're outta here?
I simply asked the question what has JD done to make things better since CDC left? Now it has spun into firing Patterson. When asked about an accomplishment the deflections seem to fly.
 

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I simply asked the question what has JD done to make things better since CDC left? Now it has spun into firing Patterson. When asked about an accomplishment the deflections seem to fly.
But I thought things were great when he took over from CDC. How could he make things any better? Nobody could ever be as good as CDC could they?
 

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Should he have fired Gary Patterson because football has had it's troubles the last three years? Should he have fired the basketball coach CDC brought here?

Tell me what he is supposed to do. Should he have gone into Gary Patterson's and Jamie Dixon's offices and given them a pep talk or told them to start winning big now or they're outta here?

The above statement is an excuse. The leader of a department has the responsibility to to create a vision, set standards, hold people accountable, and set goals. All of these items JD has proved he is unable to do. You fire people when they are unable, or do not fall into the direction the company is headed. Even the best employees can have lapses. Since JD has taken over, the athletic department has gone to [ #2020 ]. No one is fired because JD has no vision. When there is no vision, no one is outside the direction of the company.
 

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The above statement is an excuse. The leader of a department has the responsibility to to create a vision, set standards, hold people accountable, and set goals. All of these items JD has proved he is unable to do. You fire people when they are unable, or do not fall into the direction the company is headed. Even the best employees can have lapses. Since JD has taken over, the athletic department has gone to [ #2020 ]. No one is fired because JD has no vision. When there is no vision, no one is outside the direction of the company.
OK, what specifically, assuming you know the day to day innerworkings of the athletic department as you seem to think you do, would you suggest he do differently than he is doing? Specifics please.
 

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There apparently was nothing we could have done to keep him from taking another job. It DID NOT matter who the AD was.
 

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The above statement is an excuse. The leader of a department has the responsibility to to create a vision, set standards, hold people accountable, and set goals. All of these items JD has proved he is unable to do. You fire people when they are unable, or do not fall into the direction the company is headed. Even the best employees can have lapses. Since JD has taken over, the athletic department has gone to [ #2020 ]. No one is fired because JD has no vision. When there is no vision, no one is outside the direction of the company.
I would assume JD is creating a vision, setting standards and trying to hold people accountable. Obviously our big 3 sports programs have not gone the way we want them to over the last few years. Based on your post above, had he fired all three of those coaches, would we be celebrating the job JD has done?

At the end of the day, we will judge JD’s 100% based on how are teams ate performing. IMO, with the high level coaches we had in place, there was virtually nothing JD could do to effect winning and losing. So we will judge him based on something out of his control.
 

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There apparently was nothing we could have done to keep him from taking another job. It DID NOT matter who the AD was.

Part of the 7 figure compensation for the AD is because the job comes with risk, and that you may be judged on things outside of your control. At the end of the day, Schloss left on Donati's watch. Full stop.
 
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I will say again... ADJD's job is very closely attached to two things... is TCU still in a Power 5 conference after the 2024 TV agreements and keeping Coach Patterson happy AND getting TCU football back to the expected 10+ wins a year. No more losing to K-State and Iowa State. Would LSU, A&M, or Wisconsin sweat those schools? No they wouldn't... They would handle their business and pick up the W. I'm ready to watch that first flyover marking the first full game at the to be rocking again Carter.
 

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I see one way for Donati to make his mark at a school that has already made major upgrades to its facilities in revenue-generating sports. That's to successfully raise a 200M scholarship endowment to enable TCU to be one of a handful of D1 private schools that offer full financial aid with no loans for students with family incomes under 150K. It's the biggest impact he can have on college athletics because it evens the recruiting playing field in all sports. It removes the major barrier to TCU hiring elite coaches. It benefits every student on campus, will greatly benefit admissions, and will improve TCU's academic ranking.

Sell it to the major donors to athletics, and get them working with the major donors to academics.

Not that I don't want to see more restrooms at Lupton, but if ADJD is going to make a lasting mark at TCU, this is the project.
 
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I see one way for Donati to make his mark at a school that has already made major upgrades to its facilities in revenue-generating sports. That's to successfully raise a 200M scholarship endowment to enable TCU to be one of a handful of D1 private schools that offer full financial aid with no loans for students with family incomes under 150K. It's the biggest impact he can have on college athletics because it evens the recruiting playing field in all sports. It removes the major barrier to TCU hiring elite coaches. It benefits every student on campus, will greatly benefit admissions, and will improve TCU's academic ranking.

Sell it to the major donors to athletics, and get them working with the major donors to academics.

Not that I don't want to see more restrooms at Lupton, but if ADJD is going to make a lasting mark at TCU, this is the project.
I am not sure you can do that….dedicate a need based scholarship fund just for athletics seems like it violate the ncaa regs on athlete financial assistance not being able to be different than any other student beyond the athletic scholarship itself
 

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Say what you want, but the reality is that TCU sports have underperformed and disappointed in perfect correlation with the start of his leadership.

The results speak for themselves.

The guy needs to go.

Like beating Stanford in a huge comeback at the Alamo Bowl in his first major test as AD?

Or maybe an AD does not coach the team, live the lives of those that do, and has no control over a worldwide Pandemic?

CDC says his job was simple at TCU, eliminate excuses. I think that is Donati's job and he seems to be doing it on the fund raising/building part of his job.